I've noticed that there's an impulse to reject denominations among "missional/emerging types." This is especially true regarding the older more conservative evangelical denominations. Often denominations like these can't get out of their own way to allow "fresh expressions" of missionality to take shape within their churches and church planting structures. They are often blind to the ways Christendom has become entrenched in the ways they administer the churches. They have rules that aggravate. They have doctrinal formulas that were formed out of a different place and time. They focus on the differences, the denominational distinctives, that really don't mean much anymore. All of this turns off even the most dedicated of young missionaries to the territories of post-Christendom.

And yet I think these denominations could play (must play!) a role in just the kind of renewal we seek. We see emergent presbyterians, anabaptist emergents (submergents) and indeed many many other emergents as Tony Jones has outlined. The conservative evangelical denominations however seem strangely left out. Yet I think denominations like the Salvation Army (check out Pernell Goodyear's church) and other holiness denominations that have deep roots in ministering wholistically to the poor will be a significant place for the kind of renewal the missional movement is leading.

This is why I wrote THIS PIECE for Fuller Theological Seminary's Theology News and Notes. Its about my own unusual and good relationship with the Christian and Missionary Alliance, my home denomination, a conservative evangelical denomination if there ever was one. The whole issue is on the emerging/missional church within denominations. You can read my piece here. Check out the entire issue! Thanks to Ryan Bolger and Eddie Gibbs. They did a great job!

How has your experience been within your denomination? Have they been supportive? Would you recommend your denominational heritage for those seeking to explore missional/emerging church?

I recently sat with a couple at our church discussing church planting. I pointed to the immediate neighborhoods, many of which have 4-5 bedroom homes and 2 cars. I said "do you realize, if you have no debt, you are now richer than 25% of the people who live in these neighborhoods, because 25% of these people are underwater on their homes, cars, credit cards etc. They have no equity and are working 70 hours a week to keep from going further in the hole." The change in the financial landscape of our country in just the last two years is staggering and it has changed the focus of millions of people over night. I contend it could be changing the culture for a new openness to Mission as well. As a result - for those who can live simply, beneath their means, with no debt -the opportunity for Mission is unparalleled.

Let me explain the shift in culture as I see it. In the post World War 2 period, people looked at jobs, money, houses in terms of the necessities of life. We went to a job to earn an income to support our families and if we were Christians to contribute to the Kingdom of God. We bought a house (we could afford) in order to live in it. We were not obsessed with having a large sum of money for retirement that would enable us "to maintain our lifestyle" (insurance salesman lingo that became canonized in American life as part of what every person should do if he/she is responsible). Starting in the 80's however, our jobs became "careers" for personal fulfilment, our homes became idols of excess pouring thousands of dollars into upgrades, our money became a scorecard of our success. Each of these things became identity shaping idols. And these idols squeezed out community, Mission and even family from everyday American life. The obsessive focus on these idols emptied American life of depth, meaning and purpose beyond the thin veneers of American consumerism. The zenith of this excess reached its peak in these last 5-10 years. Today we are seeing the leveling of these idols. The idol hath fallen.

I have argued that vast swaths of the American church has accommodated itself in some of the worst of ways to the values inherent in these idols. I believe the missional church movement has emphasized a different response to this culture: that we should live more simply, live beneath our means, reject these idols of career, house and money. We must come together to cultivate communal life, communal sharing, transformational practices that resist consumerism and above all the everyday participation in the Mission of God. Our jobs, our homes and our money each in turn become captive to God's Mission.

It is my opinion that the current financial crisis, its pure magnitude, is revealing the emptiness and falsity of the idols of the past thirty years of American life. I intend no gloating over this. Much pain is sure to follow. Yet amidst the crumbling home values, the new emptiness of work and the loss of community in our society, I believe Missional living (Acts 2.42ff) becomes compelling in new ways as it calls us to be a community of the redeemed, sharing one another's burdens, offering each other housing when in need, sharing housing if need be, living simply beneath our means (even in the rich suburbs), offering help to the struggling (even those with a foreclosure sign on their front lawn). As the crisis unfolds, this could create a whole new openness for church as a Missional way of life. Could God be preparing the new fertile ground for His Mission in the United States? What do you think?

I'm out traveling and leading seminars with pastors in Eastern Pennsylvania for a few days. Today I was traveling with Craig Weidman assistant to the District Superintendent in the C&MA East PA District. He was telling me a story out of his own ministry when he described an experience that sounded all too familiar at Life on the Vine. He said, "the numbers were going up but something didn't feel right." He was describing the changes that were happening at a prior church ministry when numbers started going up meanwhile the ethos of the gathering was changing. He asked what do you do with that?

We've been experiencing the same thing at Life on the Vine and we're asking the same question. There's a certain excitement being generated. People are hearing about the church. The liturgical shape of our services is beginning to make sense to people. A disposition is being formed in the gathering to receive the presence of Christ in our midst. Yet even with all this we sense a certain percentage of people are coming to watch, not participate (in Mission). There's a larger group coming to see what's going on with a limited commitment to community and Mission. The church has taken on an attractional element. "The numbers are going up but something doesn't feel right."

Solutions we're discussing:
a.) Get ten people together, form a missional communal order and send them out of here. Start another church or two!
b.) Shut down the Sunday morning service once a month, and do everything we do at the big gathering in the homes, taking the spectacle element out of it, and forcing each other to be community and pray together for the neighborhood we are in. Any offerings taken are visibly discussed in ways we can bless and reach out to hurting souls in the neighborhood.
c.) Create some guidelines for coming to our church that strongly suggest, after a period of incubation, that one should commit to the Communal and Missional practices of our body or move to a place where one can. Incubation period? One year, 6 months?

Of course many folk would suggest that this could all be solved if we simply became a set of house churches. Yet I believe there are numerous ways incarnational presence in the communities can be made possible by larger church bodies (I'll perhaps engage Frank Viola on this sometime in a future post). What do you think? Have you experienced "The numbers are going up but something doesn't feel right"? What did you do?

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PS Here's a reminder about the up-coming Ancient Evangelical Future Conference Oct 9,10-11. This year's whole discussion is on "being the church," the church as the continuation of God's Story. This section of the AEF Call reads as follows:
D.H. Williams, Howard Snyder, Janell Paris, Rick Richardson, myself are all tackling this subject matter. They extended the "early bird" registration rate. Read about it here.

There is a danger that the idea of "conversion" can become a casualty of the Missional Church movement. The emphasis on the Mission of God, that God is working everywhere outside the church and all we need do is join in, might lead some to imply that there is no specific realm of Christ's Lordship where disciples of Christ must enter and explicitly submit their lives into Christ's rule. Other missiological notions might contribute to a de-emphasis on conversion such as the missiological notions that a.) ask us to think more in terms of centered sets as opposed to bounded sets, that b.) argue that missiology precedes ecclesiology or that c.) Mission is more about God working in various forces of society as opposed to an explicit "people of God." I appreciate all these missiological insights and the authors/friends that teach us about them. I see the value in each one of these theological/missiological ideas especially when accompanied by a strong ecclesiology. Nonetheless, I've notice that, if not careful, "conversion" can become a casualty of this missiology. I don't think it has to. I don't think it should. Yet often, the line becomes blurred between church and world, between explicit submission to Jesus as Lord and a participation in that reign in the world. I think a strong ecclesiology is inextricable from a strong missiology. We need a distinction as well as a inclusion of one in the other. I've noticed when this distinction gets lost that so does the notion of conversion.

A couple of months ago (over here) I tried to raise the issue that conversions look differently in missional/emerging churches. As a result, I think that missional churches need to be intentional about how we engage the process of conversion - initiation into Christ's Lordship via the church, lest we fail in this essential aspect of the gospel. We need to avoid the mistakes of a transactional meaningless conversion process, yet we need to avoid the loss of conversion as a real point of discipleship for Missional church. I wrote an article on this for this month's Christianity Today (as part of the Christian Vision Project). You can check it out here.

Am I too much of a fundamentalist here? Is any one else in Missional church world struggling with these issues? How are you addressing it?

Why is it that whenever people like myself criticise capitalism and the influence it is having on evangelical forms of the church, that we are then automatically accused of being socialists? I declare, that one can be critical of capitalism as a social system and not thereby be an avowed Marxist socialist. Indeed, the argument I am seeking to make space for, and to flesh out, is how the church provides space to be an alternative politic that lives "in but not of" capitalism.

This is why I am excited to be presenting at the AEF Conference this year. For it gives me the opportunity to flesh out some of these very ideas.

For those of you who don’t know, the Ancient-Evangelical Future Conference (AEF) was begun at Northern Seminary by Robert Webber before he passed away. The conference was founded upon the Ancient-Evangelical Call document which had four editors (Kevin VanHoozer, Howard Snyder, D H Williams, Hans Boersma) and over 400 signatories. This year's conference is now the third AEF conference. Every year the conference brings in outstanding presenters on the fundamental issue of the AEF Call - including Brian McLaren, Martin Marty, Lauren Winner, Frederica Mathews-Green and last year Scot McKnight, Edith Humphrey and Kevin Van Hoozer. This year Howard Snyder, D H Williams. Janell Williams Paris, and Rick Richardson along with myself. The conference is Oct 9-11. See here for more details.

Last year the theme was on the way we speak and practice Scripture. This year, the theme is on way we speak about and practice church. The section of the AEF Call on "the church" reads as follows:
I relish the chance to interact with these ideas. The title of my presentation will be Can Evangelicalism and Capitalism (Not) Get Along? On the Church as Counter-Narrative to American Capitalism. I will flesh out why being critical of capitalism does not necessitate that one then has to be a socialist, that indeed the church is a third alternative form of political organization that must live in – but not of – capitalism. I thn make suggestions on what possibly this look like in modern American evangelical churches.

My presentation will go like this:
1.) A brief outline of the postmodern critique of capitalism including snapshots of Deleuze, Foucault, Bauman, Zizek, Hauerwas, Milbank.
2.) What these people help us see about the current practice of the church as seen in American Evangelicalism and described by the AEF Call
3.) Some basic practices we can start with that create spaces of resistance to capitalism and thereby create space for koinonia, spiritual formation and mission in and amidst capitalism.

Interested? Come to the conference. As always, there’s a break for seminary/college students. Just e-mail the site or call them at the Grow Center at 630-620-2197.

I want to respond to a post over at Emergent Village by Anthony Smith that I can only assume was directed at a previous post of mine on "Not Voting as an Act of Christian Discernment." Anthony's post was entitled "Not Voting As Violence".

First, thanks to Anthony for the post. I have read and admired his work (over here) for a long while. My friend Brian McLaren picked up on Anthony's post over at his blog and added some good thoughts. The conversation in the comments on these two posts has been outstanding. I consider myself blessed to be brought into a conversation like this with Anthony.

Second, I think it is fair to say that if you're not black you just cannot know how to speak to the black situation in America. I also think it is fair to say that if you're not black, you cannot even know what your words might mean in a context you've never inhabited, whose history you cannot speak out of. I agree with Anthony's basic sentiment "why I get suspicious when white men tell me not to vote." That is why, despite teaching at a seminary where the student body is 40% African American, I try to avoid speaking directly into African American political ecclesial situations. When I do, I try to speak humbly upon request and offer it in service to Christ. Of course when I wrote the post, that Anthony referred to, I was not speaking specifically to the black church. I was not a white guy telling African Americans not to vote (in fact I wasn't telling anyone not to vote, just discern it. In fact, I ended up myself discerning to vote for Obama!). I was speaking to the church at large and more specifically to the emerging church (which is way too white male) of which I consider myself a part (as long as they'll have me). Nonetheless, I believe all races are part of the one race: the people of God in his church, and so it is fair of Anthony to infer that a white man is telling him not to vote because indeed he is also a part of the emerging church I was hoping to speak to.

But this gets right to the heart of the matter for me. For it appears that in Anthony's post, race and participation in the American political process (or "conversation" as Anthony referred to it) has become the pre-eminent domain that polices this conversation about "not voting." I name here a.) race and b.) the American political process as one domain on purpose. For I believe that the American political process makes it impossible to not speak of race. They are intertwined. The American process by its nature divides us by any number of means in order to separate, make appeals to and win a particular constituency's vote over another. In the same way the American democratic (dare I say voting) process divides us into races. In this respect then I might even say "voting is a racist act." It can perpetuate racism. I contend that the very philosophical underpinnings of liberal democracy, founded upon the Enlightenment, underwrite racism. In other words, the terms set down for us in democracy, including autonomous individual rights and "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness," divide us into "rights" categories and life ideals that encode the cultural mores of white supremacy. I don't have space here to unpack this last statement, but I offer Cornel West's and J. Kameron Carter's exposition of it. What all this means is that as long as we allow the American political process (i.e. democracy and capitalism) to set the terms for how we speak about justice, we are indeed forced to be divided by race.

I don't believe however, that Anthony is wrong to speak from this place of racial location because in a very real sense "this is all we have." This is all we have precisely because we do not have an alternative counter politic to this situation. The tragic situation that exists in the American nation state is that the church is not sufficient enough of a Christian politic so as to make "race," and the divisions it speaks into being, impossible. This is why I believe there will be times when "not voting" will be a much more subversive political act than voting. It will in effect create a counter political location for the exposing of race as an encoding into our very politics of America.

Of course, the very sad reality is that not only is race still a problem in America, it remains encoded in the very politic that has become the Christian church in America. One of the reasons why the church and America look so much alike on this matter of race is again because they are both built on the same foundation: individual autonomy, self assurance, rationalism, personal faith (not public) and what Milbank calls the "ontology of violence." Structurally all of these premises of liberal democracy and capitalism sound "race neutral" to us white folks, but have in recent times been shown to encode a white supremacy. This sad political situation means that sometimes we have to make a choice, whether to continue hoping the Nation State will change its own foundations or whether to call the church to be faithful to hers. Since I take United States of America not to be built on the premises of Christ and the reconciliation he has won in the cross and the resurrection (indeed I believe the so-called "Christian Nation" to be an ideological object that in fact is used to keep us from the true work on justice as his people in the world), sometimes we will need to engage in acts of subversive withdrawal in order that we might indeed call the church back to faithfulness as well as show the nation another better way. This means there will be times we have to discern whether "not-voting" is a better course of action as opposed to encouraging the State that it is on the right path by voting. And likewise, "not voting" as a subversive political act of withdrawal, may be the best means to counter the indemic racism in our society.

I don't know that any of this should come as a surprise to the black church. And I do not desire to "tell the black church anything about their heritage." I can only ask questions. Is there not already a tradition of withdrawal type activism in the black church/political communities that withdraw from other things just as precious as voting? Indeed as a commentator said at Brian's blog last week: "the civil rights movement was a movement organized and implemented outside of the electoral system." Did not the civil rights movement germinate from the black church using subversive non violent means to subvert the existing System? Since then, has there not been a history of economic boycotts by several African American civil rights leaders? Just this week one of the great black church leaders of Chicago's south side is withdrawing the children from the pubic schools after years of getting nowhere on school funding for the south side. The opportunity for an education (long denied African-Americans) has to be at least as precious as voting to African-Americans. Yet I think Meeks is finally getting something done here for justice on this issue of school funding after many attempts. Could "not voting" be the same kind of tool, maybe not now, but some day?

The symbolic victory of electing an African-American to the presidency is huge for all of us. I believe wholeheartedly that Barack Obama is an unusual, brilliant, and most importantly good man. (I vehemently disagree with him on abortion yet I still prefer his politics to the Republican alternative). For every black man and woman, there is unquestioned meaning and importance here that I would never want to diminish. For me, there is also a great sense of relief that the Bush administration's policies are coming to an end. I have resisted pres. Bush's policies from day one. Yet I fear we face a not too dissimilar fate, we who put our hopes in this political process one more time. I think Christians should be discerning it. I thank Anthony Smith, Brian McLaren, and emergent village for starting this conversation. I join the other voices who urge Emergent Village to put together a conference on political theology because this issue is so important for our future as the church and justice in America. I know Tony Jones has already been thinking about this. I look forward to the continuing discussion.

In an upcoming post, I hope to blog on the potential ways Barack Obama could be used as a "sublime object of ideology" (a tool for the further entrenching of) for the ongoing corporatist powers of the American System and what if anything he or we could do about it.

In the meantime I am open to any rants, public rebukes or helpful conversation on the comments that follow this blog post. Blessings!

BTW, for further reflection on the "not voting" stance, I offer the picture above from the most recent Focus on The Family magazine. Any thoughts?

The controversial Oscar-nominated docu-drama "No End in Sight" by film director Charles Ferguson on the Iraq War will be posted in its entirety on YouTube starting Monday and running through Nov 5. You can view it for free. The film is a sharp critique of the war and the Bush handling of the war. Ferguson is upset that the Iraq War has faded as an issue in the current election campaigns. He had to adjust his contract with the movie's original distributors costing him some decent money. If you haven't seen it, take a look for it tomorrow. The trailer can be found here. If anyone has seen it, and has opinions on this film, let me know (via the comments here).

Also, I hope to respond in a couple of days, to the posts by Anthony Smith on Emergent Village's Blog and Brian McLaren on Sojourners' blog concerning "Not-Voting" and the questions they raise regarding my post on "Not Voting" from earlier this summer.

Let's pray for the good people of New Orleans and their struggles to survive the storms that potentially lie ahead.