TeamPolitico: May. 15, 2008 - 9:10 PM EST

but a host of other contentious issues—including immigration visas for foreign workers coming into the U.S.—are part of the mix

It is a bit more that immigration visas for foreign workers. It is a massive amnesty for millions of Ag Workers.....pushed by Larry Craig and Diane Feinstein....the week after a bloated 300 Billion dollar plus Agriculture Bill with goodies for all good Big Ag Growers included. Passed by Democrats.

This is what those "immigration visas for foreign workers really is...............Senate committee adds amnesty for 1.2 million illegal ag workers to Iraq spending bill -- On a 17-12 vote this afternoon, the Senate Appropriations Committee added Sen. Feinstein's ag amnesty to the Iraq supplemental spending bill.

The 'Hill' reports tonight that:

“For instance, Congress including in the domestic-programs amendment a provision that would help pave the way for undocumented agriculture workers to win legal status, an amendment that could reopen Congress’ rancorous debate over immigration policy. The supporters of the so-called Ag-Jobs measure, Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Larry Craig (R-Idaho), say the five-year program is needed to keep farms operating and crops growing. The provision was added by a 17-12 vote. But critics say that it amounts to amnesty for people who entered the country illegally, and warn that it could imperil support for the underlying bill. Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska, a conservative Democrat who voted against the Feinstein-Craig amendment, said it raises a “red flag.” He said he would wait until he sees the final product before determining whether to support the bill. Other immigration measures were added as well, including one by Sen. Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), who sought a three-year extension on a returning worker provision under H-2B visas, which she said was necessary to save seasonal businesses like seafood companies. That amendment has the support of Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.). “It could be the end of crab meat,” she warned if the amendment were to be rejected. It was added to the Iraq-funding portion of the bill.”

Last week, on C-SPAN...members of the United Farm Workers Union, founded by C. Chavez , most legal Hispanic farm workers, testified before congress that they could not get agricultural work in California or Texas. That Big Ag Companies and Vineyards, etc. preferred to hire illegal workers or import foreign workers because they paid them three dollars less an hour.

It would seem that even with your 300 Billion dollars in their pockets...they can't pay the United Farm Workers a decent salary..and with friends like Feinstein and Craig and the seventeen Senators who voted for this to be put on the Iraqi spending bill...........THEY DON'T HAVE TO HIRE AMERICAN WORKERS. Who DO want to do the work. But are refused the opportunity to do by USA Senators pandering to BIg Ag Workers who like taking the big bucks from the taxpayers...then importing even more cheap foreign labor.

I would rather give those Hispanic workers in the United Farm Workers Union a job than eat Crabmeat.I would much rather have an open, honest Senate than eat crabmeat.

The vote is Tomorrow. If you disagree...call or e-mail your Senator;s staff. You might have one of the Good Ones. The official Senate web site is www.senate.gov.

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Big Chief

"The so-called Ag-Jobs amendment, sponsored by Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Larry Craig (R-Idaho), would create a process that allows undocumented workers to continue to work on farms. Without the amendment, Feinstein warned that the U.S. would lose $5-9 billion to foreign competition, tens of thousands of farms would shut down and 80,000 workers would be transferred to Mexico. The bill would sunset in five years. "Agriculture needs a consistent workforce," Feinstein said. "Without it, they can't plant, they can't prune, they can't pick and they can't pack. "This is an emergency situation," she added. " (The Hill May 15,2008)

LAST WEEK..............I saw a replaying of a Congressional Committee on CSPAN which carried testimoney by the United Farm Workers. This Union, founded by C. Chavez, mainly represents Legal Hispanic Agricultural Workers in the USA.

Their Officals testified..last week..that they went to these growers and farmers in California and Texas..etc. asked for work..and they REFUSED to hire Legal American Workers ..who did want those jobs...because they can pay imported Foreign workers..or illegal workers that Feinstein and Craig are pushing...three dollars an hour less.

I watched it because in the Seventies...I was a young teacher..and had just joined the New Teacher's Union. We supported Chavez and his drive to form a Union. We knew the Big Ag Growers were breaking the backs of workers in California and elsewhere with illegal workers and imported cheap foreign labor. So we marched around the School Administration Building, we held candles and at sunset we signed pleges that we would not eat grapes or lettuce until Chavez had a Union. And the Big Ag Growers were made to follow the law. And I did not eat grapes or lettuce until Chavez got his Union. He marched to the Mexican Border and soon after....the United Farm Workers Union was formed. And even then the Big Ag Growers copied his the UFW logo...so we had to look for the Eagle. The Eagle was Chavez and the FWU.

It is almost forty years latter..........the Farm Workers Union is still being beaten to death with illegal workers..like these or imported foreign workers like Milkulasi of Maryland is pushing. and what I consider, corrupt polticians are still carrying the bag for the Big Ag companies.

This is a sad night. I see that line of teachers..hundreds of them..marching around that building..thinking we could make a difference..and the only thing that really makes a difference is MONEY and POWER.

The Vote is tomorrow.

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Big Chief

"Never before have Democrats provided so much money for the wars so far in advance." They have forgotten the mandate of the 2006 elections to end the war. I have not forgotten how to vote against every one of these cowardly curs who has totally caved to the Shrub.

Where is your precious retention now, McSame? Where is the continued indentured servitude with the promise of a higher education at the end of the ever-growing tunnel?

I guess we will have to start collapsing our empire now, as veterans leave after their initial tours and the military gets spread even thinner. Damn, and we were doing such good work in Australia and Germany!

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Proud member of the "non-compliant."

JTSpangler: May. 15, 2008 - 11:16 PM EST

"Never before have Democrats provided so much money for the wars so far in advance." They have forgotten the mandate of the 2006 elections to end the war. I have not forgotten how to vote against every one of these cowardly curs who has totally caved to the Shrub.

Rock on, Brother!

Pelosi, Reid, et al can suck it! Democrats in congress have squandered their political capital and taken out high-interest loans on their moral authority. They have continued to fund the stupid war which I call Operation Enduring Defense Contracts, and used it as leverage to pile on the pork.

However, there is one Senator in particular who was right from the beginning, and he will get my vote for president.

Hey Minutemen lovers the topic of the article is the GI bill. Are you just ashamed that your Republican candidate John McCain does not support the troops? It is a travesty that a man who would throw away hundreds of billions on his 100 year war/occupation in Iraq would not spend a few billion on the brave soldiers that served. McCain and the whole Republican party simply do not really support the troops.

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"There's going to be other wars. I'm sorry to tell ya, there's gonna be other wars. We will never surrender but there will be other wars." John McCain

Obama's Backers Make Their Threat By Debra Hanania-Freeman Executive Intelligence Review 5-11-8As it stands at this moment, unless Sen. Hillary Clinton continues her campaign for the Democratic nomination until the Party's convention, there is no presently visible chance that the U.S. will come out of the presently skyrocketting hyperinflationary crisis in any form easily recognized as being, still, our Constitutional republic. The attempt by the powerful, and also predatory financier groups which have sought to crush Senator Clinton, as they had attempted to destroy the nomination of President Franklin Roosevelt in Hoover's favor in 1932, has the smell of a serious attempt at fascist dictatorship all over it. What is most alarming about this today, is the mafia-style pressure which Howard Dean's office, and the super-rich Obama campaign have put on Senator Clinton to resign here and now, at a time when the tallies on primaries to date, including that in Florida, show her to be still very much a leading contender. There is the smell of something very evil in the role which Obama and others are playing on this account. The facts of the matter as they stand on Friday morning, May 9, are as follows. The Numbers Just Don't Add Up

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where white folks' greed runs a world in need, apartheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another" Barry Hussein McGovern

The stupid people. They claim the Republicans are not for the support of the troops when they don't even understand this bill. This bill gives the same educational benefits for those that serve 3 years as the same that serve 15 years, and that seems fair to you democrats? Of course it does, being fair was never part of the democrats vocabulary. The democrats sneak into the Iraq spending bill a hidden part for amnesty - how pathetic is that. If you can't pass something on its own merit, they will sneak it into another bill. It's also funny that the majority of soldiers actually support the Republicans, and the democrats speak of the republicans don't support the troops? Please, it's been those democrats that have their own decisions to think about instead of doing what is best for America. Keep trying to pass amnesty and see what happens.

TeamPolitico: May. 15, 2008 - 9:10 PM EST

“You talk about working families? We’re talking about asking people who make over $1 million a year to increase their taxes $500 for these veterans to go to college,” said Rep. John Tanner (D-Tenn.). “This is dedicated funding, and it comes from people in this country who have to most to give to the people who gave the most.”

I frequently lose sleep at the prosepect of millionaires being asked to pay their fair share of income tax.

I'll wager that none of the folks defending the millionaires on this board make more than 100,000 a year.

You'd think that the hyper-wealthy were some sort of feeble minority instead of the folks holding the purse strings on campaign contributions.

Time for a bit of sacrifice to aid our vets.

Long overdue.

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www.johnmccain.com

dietman: May. 16, 2008 - 8:10 AM EST

The democrats sneak into the Iraq spending bill a hidden part for amnesty - how pathetic is that. If you can't pass something on its own merit, they will sneak it into another bill. It's

It is called Log Rolling. and it is despicable. Just like the two Senators who brazenly attach it to a war bill. Whether you like the war or not......and I quit thinking the Democrats are nothing but more of the same as the Republicans when they did not...will not stop that war................but STILL................We Want our troops to have what they need........and good medical care.........and a chance at an education...and I don't care if they serve three years or thirty...One Day in Iraq is worth one One month of money to send them to school..........or buy a new leg..........or pay for Plastic surgery to cover burn scars............

So, in my opinion, these Despicable Senators............whose offices were saying THEY were NOT trying to attach any Amnesty Bills while they were In Committee doing so..........LOG ROLL...Put a despised bill Onto a popular one or one that has to pass....................knowing full well it would never be passed on a Roll Call Vote.

Log Rolling is one Way Sen. Kennedy gets his apparently unlimited Hate Crimes Bills Passed. Amnesty Bills are also Log Rolled. They are playing the Taxpayer for Fools. The Budget Office of Congress....The Heritage Foundation..Groups not prone to lying or hyperbole.............both, and with Economists from Harvard and the Chicago School of Economics...state that the AVERAGE UNSKILLED, UNEDUCATED AGRICUTLURAL AND UNSKILLED VISA WORKER PLUS FAMILY AND THAT IS INCLUDED IN THIS BILL..................WILL COST Y0U $23,000 A YEAR IN EDUCATION..SOCIAL..MEDICAL...BENEFITS...A YEAR.

AND that $23,000 is AFTER $10,000 from their total cost to you of $33,000 has been deducted. One the chance they paid some social security taxes on stolen cards and sales taxes.

Feinstein and Craig and Mulkas...whatever...the Senator from Maryland who is concerned your crabmeat you eat every week will not be readily available........CRABMEAT? while we struggle to buy pork chops? Talk about the Elite speaking to the Elite............goodness, we would not want the thin as a rail Senator to go without her Crabmeat...or Lobster..or Filet Migon..or French Chocolates...goodness, no.

I Ask them..........IF YOUR CONSTANT DEMANDS FOR MORE AND MORE AMNESTIES ARE SO GOOD FOR THEM AND US...........................WHY IS CALIFORNIA BANKRUPT? WHY ARE THE SCHOOLS STAYING CLOSED AN EXTRA WEEK AT CHRISTMAS? WHY DO YOU HAVE OVER 300 HOSPITALS CLOSED BY ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION AND POOR UNSKILLED UNEDUCATED PEOPLE...............YOU HAVE LEGALIZED? A NEW GROUP OF MILLIONS EACH YEAR TO FEED THE INCESSANT DEMANDS OF A FEW MULTINATIONAL CORPORATIONS WHO WILL NOT PAY LIVING WAGES TO THE FARM WORKERS UNIONS...............AFTER WE JUST GAVE THEM 300 BILLION?

AND YOU STICK IT ON A VET'S BILL? HAVE YOU NO SHAME? THE SEVENTEEN SENATORS WHO VOTED FOR THIS....BUT REFUSE TO BACK THE VETS IF THEY ARE REPUBLICANS...........................HAVE YOU NO SHAME?

DO WE NEED TO EAT CALIFORNIA PRODUCE AT ALL? CAN YOU MAKE DO WITH LOCAL.PRODUCE? OR ..CANNED GOODS? I SURE CAN AND WILL.

THE CHASM BETWEEN OUR RULERS AND THE PEOPLE THEY RULE GROWS WIDER EACH DAY.

CRABMEAT? A SHORTAGE OF CRABMEAT? OUR KIDS ARE GETTING KILLED IN IRAQ AND SHE IS HAWKING PORK FOR THE ELITES? IN THIS TIME OF WAR AND ECONOMIC SUFFERING...WE GIVE A *&^%^*&^ ABOUT CRABMEAT? MAYBE THE CRABS COULD HAVE SOME TIME TO REGENERATE...LEAVE THEM BE. THEY ARE OVER HARVESTED ANYWAY.

SORRY I RANT. THE CRABMEAT SENATOR IS UP FOR RE ELECTION. SHE COULD BE SENT HOME IF THE VOTERS OF MARYLAND WISHED TO DO SO. RETIRED.

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Big Chief

this is just the beginning.

And would it be nice for our VETS to come home to good jobs too?The Amnesty Bill Feinstein, Larry Craig and Barbara Mulski are pushing..and it is far worse thaN first thought....................

That bill...that amendment....ALSO INCLUDES AN ADDITIONAL 218,000 H1B VISAS TO GIVE MORE COMPUTOR JOBS, MORE ENGINEERING JOBS, MORE ARCHITECTURAL JOBS, MORE NURSING JOBS....................TO import foreign workers and their families from INDIA, CHINA. AND MEXICO...THE WORLD. ANY WORKER IS BETTER THAN AN AMERICAN WORKER.

MORE JOBS AMERICANS CAN'T DO..WON'T DO.........TOO SORRY TO DO...TOO STUPID TO DO................

One third of these arrogant elites, ..who like to sell and peddle your jobs......who do take the money...from lobbyists and such........................for their 'campaign funds to stay in power forever-------------------Why can you not take their jobs from them come November? And no.......anyone new...republican or democrat would be better. Attila the Hun would be better. Lizzie Borden would be better.

In a time of recession.......depression....when my newspaper headlines how stores are selling smaller quantities of food because many Americans just can't pay for bigger sizes.....these arrogant elites seek to bring in unskilled uneducated workers on us.

And thirty million plus illegals we we have.now ..why can't they pick the (*&*& fruit? Because they sucking up enough welfare to live fine and to bankrupt California and now Florida is going down the Bankrupted by illegal aliens road too.

These Senators are Job sellers. Job thieves. They proove that Your govt. Is the worst enemy you have ,

And could this be why Congress has a 22% approval rating? I mean...President Bush is Mr. Popularity along side these job stealers.

I don't want to know anymore about that cursed bill. My blood pressure is already pushing danger.

They vote Wednesday. If you care........you can e-mail your senator at www.senate.gov or get contact information for state and D.C. . Offices. I hope you give him or her an earful. Particularly Diane...Larry. and Barbara.

And do you doubt for an instant..but that ALL three of our Presidentials...Obama, Clinton and McCain...LOVE THIS BILL? And that they will ALL VOTE FOR IT ..............unless you..we..me..us stop it. And we are poor and powerless. Good luck on that one.

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Big Chief

ANY GI bill should be an incentive to serve in the military. Period.

There are people who would make the military a career because that is their calling. That is also their reward. The GI bill was designed to reward citizens for serving their country in the military. It was not intended to be a re-enlistment incentive. There are many of those already on the books and they do a very good job of rewarding those who elect to become professional solders. So do I think it fair that the person who served 3 years should get the same civilian education benefits as a career solder? Absolutely! That was probably one more solder covering your back than you would have had otherwise. One more solder who volunteered to fight. That is also one more educated member of this country to defend your educational rights on active duty when he is no longer a solder and becomes a veteran.

As for the ag bill? If the congress continues to fund the rights of foreign workers to benefit big business above the rights of American citizens and legal immigrants an uprising of said illeagals will be the least of their worries.

It would be a good idea to remember how violently Americans respond to leaders who make decisions without giving it's citizens a voice in the process. Especially when those decisions are to the detriment of the people these leaders are supposed to represent.

"Minority Leader John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) argued that the ploy was justified to expose the Democratic majority."

Way to go John Boehner. Keep "supporting the troops" with lapel pins, bumper stickers, rhetoric and your alligator tears.

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“Where one burns books, one will, in the end, burn people.” - Heinrich Heine

Dave in AZ: May. 16, 2008 - 1:56 AM EST

However, there is one Senator in particular who was right from the beginning, and he will get my vote for president.

no body cares who you vote for

your vote is meaningless cause McCain will win AZ

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For Surrendering to the Enemy Vote Dem in Nov. To Win the War against the Islamic Extremists. Vote John McCain: No Surrender in 08!!!

edofarrell: May. 16, 2008 - 8:41 AM EST

frequently lose sleep at the prosepect of millionaires being asked to pay their fair share of income tax.

I'll wager that none of the folks defending the millionaires on this board make more than 100,000 a year.

You'd think that the hyper-wealthy were some sort of feeble minority instead of the folks holding the purse strings on campaign contributions.

Time for a bit of sacrifice to aid our vets.

Long overdue.

Amen!

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“Where one burns books, one will, in the end, burn people.” - Heinrich Heine

My Friends,

We are all aware that next January, the political leadership of the United States will change significantly when a new president is sworn into our nation's highest elected office. It is important that the candidates who seek to lead our country after President Bush define their objectives and what they plan to achieve not with vague language but with clarity.

What I want to do is take a little time to describe what I hope to have achieved at the end of my first term as president. I cannot guarantee I will have achieved these things, but I am presumptuous enough to think I would be a good president.

By January 2013, at the end of my first term as president, America has welcomed home most of the servicemen and women who have sacrificed terribly so that America might be secure in her freedom. The Iraq War has been won and Iraq is a functioning democracy. The threat from a resurgent Taliban in Afghanistan has been greatly reduced but not eliminated and there has not been a major terrorist attack in the United States since September 11, 2001.

The United States has experienced several years of robust economic growth and Americans again have confidence in their economic future. Congress has lowered taxes and passed fundamental tax reform offering a choice in how taxes are filed. Americans, who through no fault of their own, lost jobs in the global economy they once believed were theirs for life, are assisted by reformed unemployment insurance and worker retraining programs.

Public education in the United States is much improved and test scores and graduation rates are rising everywhere in the country. Health care has become more accessible to more Americans than at any other time in history.

The United States is well on the way to independence from foreign sources of oil; progress that has not only begun to alleviate the environmental threat posed from climate change, but has greatly improved our security as well.

Scores of judges have been confirmed to the federal district and appellate courts, including the U.S. Supreme Court, who understand that they were not sent there to write our laws but to enforce them.

Voluntary national service has grown in popularity in part because of the educational benefits used as incentives, as well as frequent appeals from the bully pulpit of the White House, but mostly because the young Americans understand that true happiness is much greater than the pursuit of pleasure, and can only be found by serving causes greater than self-interest.

This is the progress I want us to achieve during my presidency. These are the changes I am running for president to make. I want to leave office knowing that America is safer, freer and wealthier than when I was elected.

There are serious issues at stake in this election, and serious differences, but it should remain an argument among friends; each of us struggling to hear our conscience, and heed its demands. Each of us, despite our differences, united in our great cause and respectful of the goodness in each other. That is how most Americans treat each other. And it is how they want the people they elect to office to treat each other.

We cannot again leave our problems for another unluckier generation of Americans to fix after they have become even harder to solve. I'm not interested in partisanship that serves no other purpose than to gain a temporary advantage over our opponents. We are all compatriots. We are fellow Americans. I intend to prove myself worthy of the office, of our country and of your respect. I won't judge myself by how many elections I've won. I won't spend one hour of my presidency worrying more about my re-election than keeping my promises to the American people.

And now, I call on you to do your part in making this vision a reality. I am not presumptuous enough to think that I will be elected our next president without your help, and I humbly ask you today to make a contribution to my campaign of any amount to ensure my campaign is fully funded and able to take my message and vision directly to every American voter.

Sincerely,

John McCain

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For Surrendering to the Enemy Vote Dem in Nov. To Win the War against the Islamic Extremists. Vote John McCain: No Surrender in 08!!!

Politicians do what is best for politicians, voters come in at best a distant 3rd or 4th. Never forget that. It is the cardinal rule of both the ruling parties and will remain so till a few more parties gain a toehold, if any ever do. Don't expect them to live by what they promised. Politicians pay back favors but consistently renege on promises at least once every day of the week and twice on the Sabbath. Congress is the ultimate no spine zone. It is CYA-land to the ultimate. Who else in the USA has such a profitable job with such a great healthcare package and generous retirement? Well, a few CEOs who wrote their own goodies packages, which brings me back to Congress.

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Kal from Columbus OH

cmicah6:8: May. 16, 2008 - 10:36 AM EST

Way to go John Boehner. Keep "supporting the troops" with lapel pins, bumper stickers, rhetoric and your alligator tears.

Not funny !!! but true . these dirtbags think lapel pins are more patriotic than giving them an education when they are done SERVING OUR COUNTRY WITH THEIR LIVES ON THE LINE !!!!

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Eighty-two percent of Americans also believe the country is on the wrong track,

KQuark: May. 16, 2008 - 2:53 AM EST

Hey Minutemen lovers the topic of the article is the GI bill. Are you just ashamed that your Republican candidate John McCain does not support the troops?

Hey Border Hopper Protector.............From the AZSTAR.com

This is from Phoenix. Why do Hispanics...most from Mexico become USA Citizens..and remember they REMAIN Mexican Citizens....they just get to be USA Citizens too. They get a two for one special.

NOTE the Love of the USA listed in the reasons they became USA Citizens...

"Some were prompted by citizenship drives launched after the collapse of immigration reform in Congress.

Still others applied out of fear of being caught in stepped-up immigration crackdowns.

In Phoenix, 15,976 immigrants applied for citizenship during fiscal 2007, which ended Sept. 30. That's up 64 percent from 2006. Nationally, 1.4 million applications poured in during 2007, almost twice as many as in the previous year.

The flood of citizenship applications created a huge backlog. By the end of December, more than 1 million immigrants were waiting for their applications to be processed, and the CIS said it could take up to 18 months to plow through the backlog, compared with the usual six-month wait." And of course...the Radical, racist Separtist Organization LaRaza (The Race) which poses as a "Civil Rights Organization" has sued DHS because they don't make them USA/Mexican dual citizens quick enough.

DO YOU SEE HOW THE POPULATION OF THE USA HAS GROWN OVER A HUNDRED MILLION IN THE LAST SIXTEEN YEARS? HOW IT IS PREDICTED THAT WITH THE CURRENT RATE OF IMMIGRATION..AND THE AMNESTIES SENATORS AND REPRESENTATIVES GRANT FOR CORPORATE SPONSORS AND CASH PAYMENTS MADE BY FOREIGN NATIONS TO LOBBYISTS WHO ALSO WORK FOR THE CONGRESS...................WE WILL HAVE ONE BILLION PEOPLE HERE IN 2040.

The FBI does not do checks on the Money trail from Foreign nations to lobbyists to Congressmen and Women and SENATORS.

The FBI does not do checks on LaRaza and it's employees..who they are ..where they are from..which foreign nations fund them.

Mexico was an ally of Germany and the Axis in World War I and remained Neutral during World War II but harborded Nazi spies.

Canada has been with us in every war we have fought.

Mexico has been in none.

Mexico is no friend to the USA. So WHAT is so wonderful ABOUT taking on millions of dual citizens who have been taught to hate Americans and disrespect us.............YOU CAN FIRE EVERY LAST MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES IN NOVEMBER. AND ONE THIRD OF THE SENATE. YOU CAN DO IT. IF YOU WILL.

AND THEN THE SELLING OF AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP WILL STOP. ONLY WHEN THE CONGRESS WE HAVE NOW IS GONE.

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Big Chief