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Chicago is hot, all of the sudden —but Lance Fortnow has nothing to do with it (if you were wondering).

Chris F. Masse November 13th, 2008

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Beware that the Olympics Host prediction markets are unlikely to be accurate as the International Olympic Committee is a close and non-transparent organization, run by a bunch of co-optated aristocrats engulfed in IOC office politics. The IOC is as close as the CIA or the Mafia —well, actually, it is a Mafia. Don’t expect accurate leaks. Don’t trade on those prediction markets, and don’t take their probability seriously.

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Price for Host of 2016 Summer Games (Region) at intrade.com

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Chicago:

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Definition Of Prediction Market

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A prediction market is a market for a contract that yields payments based on the outcome of a partially uncertain future event, such as an election. A contract pays $100 only if candidate X wins the election, and $0 otherwise. When the market price of an X contract is $60, the prediction market believes that candidate X has a 60% chance of winning the election. The price of this event derivative represents the imputed perceived likelihood of the partially uncertain event (i.e., its aggregated expected probability). A 60% probability means that, in a series of events each with a 60% probability, the favored outcome is expected to occur 60 times out of 100, and the unfavored outcome is expected to occur 40 times out of 100.

Each prediction exchange organizes its own set of real-money and/or play-money markets, using either a CDA or a MSR mechanism —with or without an automated market maker.

Prediction markets enable us to attain collective intelligence. Prediction markets produce dynamic, objective probabilistic predictions on the outcomes of future events by aggregating disparate pieces of information that the traders bring when they agree on prices. The event derivative traders are informed by the primary indicators (i.e., the primary sources of information), like the polls, for instance. These informed speculators then execute their transactions based on their anticipations about the future —anticipations that will be either confirmed or infirmed.

The value of a set of prediction markets consists in the added accuracy that these prediction markets provide relative to the other forecasting mechanisms, times the value of accuracy in improved decisions, minus the cost of maintaining these prediction markets, relative to the cost of the other forecasting mechanisms. According to Robin Hanson, a highly accurate prediction market has little value if some other forecasting mechanism(s) can provide similar accuracy at a lower cost, or if very few substantial decisions are influenced by accurate forecasts on its topic.

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Beware the propaganda sent out by the executives of the prediction exchanges

Chris F. Masse November 13th, 2008

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A Iowa Electronic Markets director has been caught (by a young student) red-hand over-selling the IEM predictive power…!!!…

First of all, thank you for your continued work on the IEM. [MicroSoft Word file] It’s great to see a continued and consistent trader base and methodology.

But I do have to admit that I am very uncomfortable with the way the paper compares the Vote Share market and the polls to the final Election Day result. Both a prediction market and a poll are trying to put a number on uncertainty, and that uncertainty is only ever known/fixed on Election Day. While the dynamics of how each reacts certainly can be compared and assessed, measuring an error based on comparing 2007 results to Election Day results strikes me as really unreasonable.

While I do find it fascinating that the markets bounced around the final result, leading to a potential interpretation that there was a structural reason why the Democrats won in 2008, I disagree with using prediction market results to imply that the result was pre-ordained.

I believe that prediction markets should be compared to polls through the election cycle to determine how each moves relative to each other (for communication and information flow). I believe that prediction markets and polls can only be assessed based on their results shortly before Election Day (for accuracy), and that as you get further before that the numbers become meaningless.

All that said, I’m willing to change my mind if there’s enough evidence otherwise.

Jed Christiansen

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- Iowa Electronic Markets propaganda

- HubDub propaganda

- InTrade propanganda

- BetFair propaganda

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NOT SAFE FOR WORK

Chris F. Masse November 12th, 2008

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If that online retailer was able to fork over $1 million for the domain name “vibrators.com” (take a look at their “Jack Rabbit Vibrator”), then the safe bet is that HubDub will be able to get one million bucks, too —so as to fund its expansion.

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Does it matter that the prediction markets got the total number of electoral votes for Barack Obama (almost) spot on?

Chris F. Masse November 12th, 2008

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Nigel Eccles is calling HubDub.co.uk his home.

Let’s scan his Press release for interesting bits:

We’re delighted to be able to offer our UK Hubdubbers their very own UK Edition of Hubdub. Now Hubdubbers based in the UK can now see news stories that other UK users are predicting on, simply by selecting the UK Edition at the top right of the home page.

Interestingly, the US site’s most popular stories today are all around the Presidential Inauguration and Obama’s cabinent appointments, while the UK site’s top listings are X-Factor, Strictly Come Dancing and Everton v Middlesborough. What does this say about the UK, I wonder? ;-) [1]

Here is the press release that we issued today in the UK:

Edinburgh, 10 November 2008:

News junkies in the UK can now get an additional fix, by predicting the outcome of news stories – engaging in news stories instead of just reading them.

Users of Hubdub, which launches in the UK today, use a pot of virtual money to place bets on the outcome of any of over 2000 running news stories, covering the likes of politics, sport, business and entertainment.

Since launching earlier this year in the US, Edinburgh-based Hubdub has garnered a substantial and loyal following, with over 200,000 unique visitors per month, 800,000 predictions to date and over 2 million Hubdub dollars staked every day. Some users are spending several hours a day on the site, with many of them confessing to a definite Hubdub “addiction” on the site’s forum.

The fact that it’s Hubdub dollars at stake is apparently irrelevant [2] – Hubdub users are so competitive that the most important thing is that they prove they were right to the rest of the vibrant community. How much is won or lost depends on not only how the news story turns out, but how others have predicted the outcome. Groups of friends can set up their own, dedicated leaderboard to show who has predicted most accurately.

Globally, prediction markets, the mechanism behind Hubdub, are becoming increasingly popular. In the US, the Presidential election sent the numbers of users soaring. They have proven to be more accurate than polls [3], and because they respond in near real-time to developing stories [4], more agile too. Indeed, Hubdub successfully predicted the final voting results of the US election where the majority of polls and pundits failed. [5]

Lesley Eccles, one of the founders of Hubdub, commented: “It’s great to be launching in the UK, despite the recession. People are going to be looking for free entertainment and will turn to the web to find it. Hubdub is free, exciting and keeps you informed. In addition, news sites are looking to engage and interact further with their readers and Hubdub gives them a fantastic means to do so.”

Having secured partnerships with leading media news sites including Reuters and The Independent, Hubdub is taking prediction markets more mainstream and making them easier for casual browsers to appreciate. Sitting beside high quality news content, Hubdub provides news sites with additional ways to engage their readers, keeping them online longer and returning on a regular basis.

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[1] Interesting stats. Does it tell more about the Americans versus the British, or more about the HubDub’s SEO results?

[2] I agree with that, in part. I would like to see HubDub offering prizes to traders, as NewsFutures does.

[3] Scottish approximation. It should be said that prediction markets do slightly better than the polls, in a very long series of comparisons.

[4] Yes, a prediction market is an information aggregation mechanism, but its value is limited. It is valuable to the busy people. But the real value of the prediction markets have yet to be demonstrated. (I have my own idea.)

[5] Scottish exaggeration. I don’t like this way of assessing the electoral college predictions. The InTrade and HubDub prediction markets got both Missouri and Indiana wrong (so to speak, in a non-probabilistic way), but, as those 2 states has the exact same number of electoral votes (11), this double mistake cancels itself when you assess only the total number of electoral votes. The InTrade and HubDub prediction markets can claim that they got the number for Barack Obama (almost) spot on (they predicted 364, with the “leaning” method –he will get 365, actually, because of one additional Nebraska electoral vote) —but that’s because their mistakes on Missouri and Indiana cancel themselves perfectly. I call that “luck”.

TAKEAWAY: To find the real social utility of the prediction markets, we need to go beyond the propaganda churned out by the exchange executives and their courtesans.

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APPENDIX:

Here’s a visual post-mortem of the 2008 US presidential elections.

Pay attention to Missouri and Indiana.

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A) InTrade, on November 5, 2008 (screen shot taken at 2:00 am):

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Prediction Markets & State Polls, on November 4, 2008:

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B1) Prediction Markets (on November 4, 2008)

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InTrade (screen shot taken at mid-day ET, November 4, 2008):

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InTrade (screen shot taken in the morning, November 4, 2008):

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BetFair (screen shot taken in the morning, November 4, 2008):

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HubDub (screen shot taken in the morning, November 4, 2008):

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B2) State Polls (on November 4, 2008)

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Karl Rove (on November 4, 2008):

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CNN (on November 4, 2008):

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Pollster (on November 4, 2008):

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Electoral-Vote.com (on November 4, 2008):

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Nate Silver (on November 4, 2008):

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PREDICTION MARKET PROBABILITIES

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Explainer On Prediction Markets

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A prediction market is a market for a contract that yields payments based on the outcome of a partially uncertain future event, such as an election. A contract pays $100 only if candidate X wins the election, and $0 otherwise. When the market price of an X contract is $60, the prediction market believes that candidate X has a 60% chance of winning the election. The price of this event derivative represents the imputed perceived likelihood of the partially uncertain event (i.e., its aggregated expected probability). A 60% probability means that, in a series of events each with a 60% probability, the favored outcome is expected to occur 60 times out of 100, and the unfavored outcome is expected to occur 40 times out of 100.

Each prediction exchange organizes its own set of real-money and/or play-money markets, using either a CDA or a MSR mechanism —with or without an automated market maker.

Prediction markets enable us to attain collective intelligence. Prediction markets produce dynamic, objective probabilistic predictions on the outcomes of future events by aggregating disparate pieces of information that the traders bring when they agree on prices. The event derivative traders are informed by the primary indicators (i.e., the primary sources of information), like the polls, for instance. These informed speculators then execute their transactions based on their anticipations about the future —anticipations that will be either confirmed or infirmed.

The value of a set of prediction markets consists in the added accuracy that these prediction markets provide relative to the other forecasting mechanisms, times the value of accuracy in improved decisions, minus the cost of maintaining these prediction markets, relative to the cost of the other forecasting mechanisms. According to Robin Hanson, a highly accurate prediction market has little value if some other forecasting mechanism(s) can provide similar accuracy at a lower cost, or if very few substantial decisions are influenced by accurate forecasts on its topic.

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More Info:

- The Best Resources On Prediction Markets = The Best External Web Links + The Best Midas Oracle Posts

- Prediction Market Science

- The Midas Oracle Explainers On Prediction Markets

- All The Midas Oracle Explainers On Prediction Markets

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How many web visitors did Midas Oracle send to the prediction exchanges (and the other external websites)?

Chris F. Masse November 5th, 2008

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Technical Note: Only the web visitors are counted here, not the feed subscribers (who are my main focus, though).

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Here are the numbers of web visitors that the MidasOracle.org website sent to the external websites, yesterday, on the 2008 Election Day:

- To Yahoo! News: 124

- To InTrade: 76

- To HubDub: 44

- To Electoral-Markets.com: 40 — as you all know, this website repackages some InTrade data.

- To CNN: 26

- To MSNBC: 16

- To Wikipedia: 15

- To the HubDub blog: 9

- To Electoral-Vote.com: 6

- To CNBC: 4

- To BetFair: 2

- To NewsFutures: 2

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Why is it that so few people clicked on the BetFair and NewsFutures links published on Midas Oracle, yesterday?

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Now, for October and November (till Election Day):

- To InTrade: 524

- To Electoral-Markets.com: 368

- To Yahoo! News: 324

- To Wikipedia: 239

- To HubDub: 211

- Electoral-Vote.com: 153

- To CNN: 99

- To LinkedIn: 86

- To MSNBC: 85

- To BetFair: 50

- To TradeSports: 40

- To HSX: 38

- To NewsFutures: 37

- To HedgeStreet: 36

- To Google: 35

- To the New York Times: 34

- To CFM: 31

- To Portfolio: 31

- To Robin Hanson: 29

- To Consensus Point: 28

- To Iowa Electronic Markets: 27

- To Nate Silver: 27

- To TradeFair: 27

- To NewsFutures Consulting: 26

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InTrade and HubDub are the 2 prediction exchanges favored by those who click on links.

I am going to persist in offering a wide variety of links to my readers, though.

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InTrade was the best prediction exchange, on November 4, 2008 —in terms of the overall service (Internet usability included).

Chris F. Masse November 5th, 2008

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- Thank you, InTrade, for the liquidity and the excellent charting system. (I will make some minor suggestions about their chart widgets, later on, if I may.)

- Thank you, NewsFutures, for being a play-money alternative to InTrade.

- Thank you, HubDub, for allowing anybody (even a rascal like moi) to bet (virtual dollars) on anything —including issues that are internal to HubDub.

- As for BetFair, to be honest and frank with them, it should be said that their second-tier charting system is a pain in the ***, and I hope that they will work on that for the next (US or British) political election. Best wishes to them.

- As for the Iowa Electronic Markets, they are good and smart people, but going on CNBC to say that IEM doesn’t have any prediction market on whether the Democrats will get 60 seats in the US Senate disqualifies them as a useful prediction exchange.

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TIME’s person of the year 2008 will be Barack Obama.

Chris F. Masse November 4th, 2008

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© NewsFutures

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2008 US electoral map prediction — generated by the prediction markets

Chris F. Masse November 4th, 2008

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InTrade vs. BetFair vs. HubDub

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[Cross-posted from Midas Oracle .COM.]

State Polls vs. Prediction Markets — 2008 US Presidential Election Prediction

Chris F. Masse November 4th, 2008

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Here are the latest (and last) state polls and prediction market probabilities.

I am writing this post at 10:00 am —on Tuesday, November 4, 2008.

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Contents

  • a visual roundup of the prediction market probabilities for the 2008 US electoral college
  • the latest news about the race for the White House
  • a visual roundup of various electoral maps based on state polls
  • more prediction market probabilities

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PREDICTION MARKET PROBABILITIES

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- This is a dynamic electoral map from InTrade, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. Click on the image, and open the website (ElectoralMarkets.com) in another browser tab to get the bigger version. - [Feed readers: Download this webpage to visualize this InTrade widget, since it doesn't display within feed readers.]

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- This is a dynamic electoral map from InTrade, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. - [Feed readers: Download this webpage to visualize this InTrade widget, since it doesn't display within feed readers.]

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- This is a dynamic electoral map from HubDub, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. - [The HubDub dynamic charts listed below go into feeds.]

- HubDub’s prediction markets on the 2008 electoral college:

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LATEST NEWS

- Rush to Memeorandum, the Drudge Report and Real Clear Politics to check what are the most talked about issues of the day.

- The (sad) death of Barack Obama’s grandmother has reminded the voters that the Democratic nominee is both “black” (African-American) and “white” (Caucasian). That might reassure some white voters, and could diminish a bit the so-called “Bradley Effect” —which I don’t believe is a factor in this presidential race, anyway.

- The 2 November surprises (Barack Obama’s aunt is an “illegal alien” + Barack Obama believes in the usefulness of very high green taxes) have probably damaged Barack Obama’s attractiveness with the voters who believe in strict immigration control and the virtues of free markets.

- The US stock markets have (probably, temporarily) stopped spiraling into the abyss. (John McCain became more unpopular each time the stocks went down, these last weeks. So, when Wall Street is doing OK, it won’t help Barack Obama, additionally.)

- Beware the exit polls, they have proved to be somewhat unreliable, in the past. They have a Democratic bias.

- As for how this historic day will roll out, check Nate Slver’s railroad at NewsWeek.

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STATE POLLS

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CNN:

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Pollster:

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Electoral-Vote.com:

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Nate Silver:

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PollTrack:

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MORE PREDICTION MARKET PROBABILITIES

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#1. Explainer On Prediction Markets

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A prediction market is a market for a contract that yields payments based on the outcome of a partially uncertain future event, such as an election. A contract pays $100 only if candidate X wins the election, and $0 otherwise. When the market price of an X contract is $60, the prediction market believes that candidate X has a 60% chance of winning the election. The price of this event derivative represents the imputed perceived likelihood of the partially uncertain event (i.e., its aggregated expected probability). A 60% probability means that, in a series of events each with a 60% probability, the favored outcome is expected to occur 60 times out of 100, and the unfavored outcome is expected to occur 40 times out of 100.

Each prediction exchange organizes its own set of real-money and/or play-money markets, using either a CDA or a MSR mechanism —with or without an automated market maker.

Prediction markets enable us to attain collective intelligence. Prediction markets produce dynamic, objective probabilistic predictions on the outcomes of future events by aggregating disparate pieces of information that the traders bring when they agree on prices. The event derivative traders are informed by the primary indicators (i.e., the primary sources of information), like the polls, for instance. These informed speculators then execute their transactions based on their anticipations about the future —anticipations that will be either confirmed or infirmed.

The value of a set of prediction markets consists in the added accuracy that these prediction markets provide relative to the other forecasting mechanisms, times the value of accuracy in improved decisions, minus the cost of maintaining these prediction markets, relative to the cost of the other forecasting mechanisms. According to Robin Hanson, a highly accurate prediction market has little value if some other forecasting mechanism(s) can provide similar accuracy at a lower cost, or if very few substantial decisions are influenced by accurate forecasts on its topic.

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More Info:

- The Best Resources On Prediction Markets = The Best External Web Links + The Best Midas Oracle Posts

- Prediction Market Science

- The Midas Oracle Explainers On Prediction Markets

- All The Midas Oracle Explainers On Prediction Markets

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#2. Objective Probabilistic Predictions = Charts Of Prediction Markets

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- Listed below are the odds produced by the prediction exchanges. If you are interested in the predictions, we advise you to have a close look, first, at the real-money prediction markets (InTrade, TradeSports, BetFair and the Iowa Electronic Markets). Now, if you want to have real fun interacting with the news, we recommend that you trade on the play-money prediction markets (HubDub and NewsFutures).

- If you want to visit one of those prediction exchanges, put your mouse on the selected dynamic chart, right-click, and open the link in another browser tab.

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2008 US Elections

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InTrade

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2008 US Electoral College

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- This is a dynamic electoral map from InTrade, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. Click on the image, and open the website (ElectoralMarkets.com) in another browser tab to get the bigger version. - [Feed readers: Download this webpage to visualize this InTrade widget, since it doesn't display within feed readers.]

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- This is a dynamic electoral map from InTrade, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. - [Feed readers: Download this webpage to visualize this InTrade widget, since it doesn't display within feed readers.]

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2008 US Presidential Elections - By State

- To get to the InTrade prediction market webpage for a specific state, right-click the state link, and open it in another browser tab.

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Source:

- The electoral map widget is from InTrade .COM.

- InTrade .COM.

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- All the charts below are also dynamic —they update themselves each time you open this webpage. - [The InTrade dynamic charts listed below go into feeds.]

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2008 US Presidential Election Winner - Individual

Price for 2008 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) at intrade.com

Price for 2008 Presidential Election Winner (Individual) at intrade.com

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2008 US Presidential Election Winner - Political Party

Price for 2008 Presidential Election Winner (Political Party) at intrade.com

Price for 2008 Presidential Election Winner (Political Party) at intrade.com

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2008 US Congressional Elections Winner - Political Party

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2008 US Senate Control

Price for 2008 US Senate Control at intrade.com

Price for 2008 US Senate Control at intrade.com

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2008 US House Of Representatives Control

Price for 2008 US House of Representatives Control at intrade.com

Price for 2008 US House of Representatives Control at intrade.com

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Sources:
- The dynamic, compound prediction market charts are from InTrade .COM.
- The individual charts, however, are from InTrade .COM v2. We will later transition to the charts from InTrade .COM when the charting quality of their widgets improves.
- We are also waiting to be able to hot-link to the advanced charts of InTrade .COM.

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BetFair

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Winning Party

Winning Party

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Next US President

Next US President

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- This is a dynamic compound chart from BetFair, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. - [Feed readers: Download this webpage to visualize this BetFair widget, since it doesn't display within feed readers.]

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Source:

- BetFair Politics Zone

- BetFair Chart Widgets - [They are based on Flash, a shitty technology that doesn't go into feeds.]

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Iowa Electronic Markets

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2008 U.S. Presidential Election Winner-Take-All Market

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2008 U.S. Presidential Election Vote Share Market

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- Source: Iowa Electronic Markets

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HubDub

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2008 US Presidential Elections

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- This is a dynamic electoral map from HubDub, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. - [The HubDub dynamic charts listed below go into feeds.]

- HubDub’s prediction markets on the 2008 electoral college:

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- This is a dynamic compound chart from HubDub, which updates itself each time you refresh this webpage. - [The HubDub dynamic chart listed below go into feeds.]

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2008 US Senate Elections

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2008 US House Of Representatives Elections

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NewsFutures

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Next US President Will Be Democratic.


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Next US President Will Be Republican.


© NewsFutures

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Swing States For The 2008 US Presidential Elections

- 2008 Electoral College

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- NewsFutures and Bet2Give used to have chart widgets on the US primaries, which didn’t go into feed readers. We are waiting for their next chart widgets.

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Resources on US Politics

- CNN - US Political Dashboard

- CNN - US Electoral Map

- Yahoo! News - US Political Dashboard

- Electoral-Vote.com - Polls

- Real Clear Politics - Polls

- Five Thirty Eight - Polls

- Pollster - Polls

- Poll Track - Polls

- Wikipedia - Polls

- Wikipedia - 2008 US Presidential Elections

- Wikipedia - 2008 US House Of Representatives Elections

- Wikipedia - 2008 US Senate Elections

- Wikipedia - 2008 US Gubernatorial Elections

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Other Prediction Markets Related To The 2008 US Presidential Elections

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The Prediction Exchanges

- List of the main real-money and play-money prediction exchanges (betting exchanges) at Midas Oracle

- Complete list of the real-money and play-money prediction exchanges (betting exchanges) at Midas Oracle

- Complete list of the real-money and play-money prediction exchanges at CFM

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[This post was cross-posted from Midas Oracle .COM.]

Strange Bedfellows

Chris F. Masse November 4th, 2008

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FOX TV + HubDub

Click on the VIDEO tab, and then click on PLAY.

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