good video

audio, not so much....

facebook needs a videographer

Nobody is going to watch a twenty minute video.
Or at least not many, I'm doubting.

Actually both the video and audio are basically unwatchable. Oh well...

GREAT now when can we have this?? Really excited to have this now!!

Great content in the video, however I thought Facebook would be more high tech then this. lol.

Also to people about to watch, the most cogent part starts at the 5 minute mark..

what the crap?
couldn't a 15-billion dollar company afford a decent video camera? :oP

Though I agree with the comments about quality of AV (or lack thereof) and length of the vid (!), the new developments certainly look intriguing... providing much more customization for the user. I'm eager for the launch sitewide!

...tho' I can't help feeling some of the neatly organized info could be geared toward helping the headhunters & recruiters quickly find what they need!! :)

Oh dear. How on earth COULD you have such a dreadful video/audio for us to watch?! I've always thought of Facebook as a professional outfit. This is just embarrassing

PS: Somebody at Facebook should do a screencast (in decent quality!). That would be far more informative than this video of a presentation. Could be cut into chapters, talking through the various components, and focused on 1) the user 2) the developer etc etc

You guys are loing sight of the fact that this whoe thing isn't about the quality of the video, it's about the innovation of the structural design of Facebook. This looks tremendous to me, and I'm not quite finished yet.

But, it does baffle somewhat that they've not done this in better quality.

Still haven't caught on to the fact that TV (and subsequently poor, quality videotapes of facetime meeting/presentations) don't fit on the web?

Good grief people take a few moments to look at the technology available out here beyond sending one line tweets back and forth and take a few cues from what you learn.

I'm sure most of the employees that were forced to sit through this were bored to tears. Imagine the majority of interested users reactions? Here's another hint, the majority didn't waste time watching or commenting.

I'm excited for an applications tab... Lots of people have junk applications I don't care about... but now nobody is going to see my LOLcats! Nobody but the user is going to look at their applications tab. We should be able to put our favourite apps on our front page.

still pushing the no wall agenda..

WE WANT A WALL TAB!

I just become a 'fan' to comment on how awful the video was, didn't show of any of the hard work they have been doing at all.

And I also don't like the idea of not being able to decide what people see on the front page, like the flickr application etc

I agree with Karen. I'm concerned that no one will see my extended info, which will now be shoved awkwardly under the "applications" tab.

You can still integrate applications into your "Info" tab.

I'm really looking forward to this new profile layout.

ok no its not a 1080 P high deff video... and yes its 20 minutes... but considering some people will sit through tv shows that are 20 mintues with 10 minutes of commercials... this isnt that bad
i DONT think facebook needs a better camera man... i think this video did the trick and unless you have A.D.D and are no older then 12 years old... you can appreciate this video.
i thought the video was great... very informative and pretty exciting :D i cant wait to see some of these changes and i think you guys have really done your homework and looked in to what the user wants and come up with great ideas. facebook wins
THANKS FOR THE PREVIEW :D cant wait

They just compressed the heck out of the video so that people with slower connections could still see it. It looks like it wasn't really made for US. They had a meeting and recorded and thought.. what the heck, why don't we share this? It wasn't initially designed for a web feed.

I think the concepts they want to focus on are great. Of course the devil is in the details but I'm hopeful that much more good than bad will come from this. I look forward to it.

Awww I like facebook just the way it is :(
Why couldn't we just add some color and leave it at that?
Tabs? BOOOO :(

People are missing the fact that the target demographic for this video isn't teenagers.

Everyone likes the changes? Everyone's been fighting them in the comments. Interesting....

God, everyone's sooo moany, no one's forcing anyone to watch it! The developments look much better than having to sift through someone's mile long page of crappy applications to find their wall! I cant wait for the new changes, I hope they're soon...

Its so cool!wen r we getting it?

hahaha! this is hilarious and everybodys comments about the poor quality video!!! haha and the shakey cameraman!

"One of the major things that we've noticed is that people are consuming and publishing a lot more content a lot more frequently."

One of the major things *I've* noticed is that people are consuming and publishing a lot more noise and a lot less signal.

one of the things that "I've" noticed is Yevgeny thinks he's funny..but, he's not..

also, it seems as though they are just doing this for potential/current "bosses" to stalk out their employees/potential employees "faster"..they're putting whatever you do here for fun somewhere in the back, so they can just instantly see exactly what you're doing..I guess it works out well for stalkers too..

there isn't a problem with having a shit load of applications on the main page, it's just a problem when idiots have ALL of them open..

fight the change..*shakes fist*..they think they can do whatever they want 'cause we are all addicted..

I was too lazy to even watch this video, because this company is rich enough to have the information beamed directly into my brain. :P

I think a lot of us sit through more than 20 minutes for less valid reasons and end up with a lot less information...I like the fact that facebook developers have shared this information with us instead of just implementing it and leaving everyone floundering about in the new format...people who like organization and a tidy desk are gonna love this new development...others will still manage to make a mess of it...which I'm sure takes more effort than just conforming...all in all...I am looking forward to the new format...the bonus for users with slower pc's (not to be confused with slower pc users!!!) is that everything will load faster because you will be loading what you immediately want to access...instead of EVERYTHING...

...I'm not going to grumble about AV quality...though it was challenging to watch and listen to...sharing it appears to have been an afterthought...and a very good one!!!

...nice job Facebook!!! Thanks for the heads up!!!

i suppose their trying to stay up the times i couldnt understand him really

I'm alright with the poor quality of the video. I don't really want to see a bright flashy video trying to sell a new profile design. I think the beauty of facebook is that it is different from myspace and lacks all the junk and bright colors and advertisements all over the place. Even though we've been inundated with lots of pretty useless applications, i still prefer Facebook. I think it's great that all the applications go in a different tab, because I tend to pay more attention to the profile info, the pictures, the wall, and the people to people interaction. In fact, I wouldn't mind if they took most of the applications away, but i think the new design is a good compromise.

I think is gonna be a really good change for us (the users)!!

I'm excited for an applications tab... Lots of people have junk applications I don't care about... but now nobody is going to see my LOLcats! Nobody but the user is going to look at their applications tab. We should be able to put our favourite apps on our front page.

I SIMPLY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT THE MINI-FEED CAN NOT BE COLLAPSED ANYMORE, LOOKS AWFUL!!

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Wtf? I didn't hear anything about the wall tab? DON'T INCORPORATE THE WALL AND THE FEED!

you'd think facebook has enough money for a decent camera...
that said, it's great they are giving us a forewarning on the upcoming changes.
If i can't leave my profile as it is today, then here are some
proposed tabs:

feed+info+wall+pictures
applications

OR

feed+info
wall+pictures
applications

OR

feed+wall
info+pictures
applications

That's the same thing that Joe Hewitt did when he designed the facebook web app for the iphone.

JOE HEWITT FTW!!!

i hate the feed... so much

This is one of the worst videos i have ever seen, both in quality of presentation, and technical quality. Is this really a facebook presentation? have they not noticed that the average amateur who posts video on facebook would embarrassed to post something so pathetic. This is no way to sell anything!

I think they made this video for the nerds..

-Brian

i think they were using a yahoo video session for this... it's terrible.

PS. I hate the feed. I HATE IT. what good will the new profile concept provide if people have it disabled?

I will be happy if I don't have to drag application boxes up and down to sort them.

..about being unable to collapse the mini-feed.......I don't appreciate that. If they are "giving me more control over my profile"...why am I not allowed to collapse it??? You can go into a profile and 'un-collapse' it to read if you choose to...so why make it mandatory to be open? It just takes up more loading time. There are mini-feeds, news feeds, requests, notifications often repeating the same information. I don't care to see someone sent fifty ?? to fifty people each listed separately.

If the point is for us to have more control over our profiles, then why don't I see an 'X' in the new feed?

That's sucks. But the other changes look cool.

hehe browns power, chamath palihapitiya and ruchi sanghvi both chocolates, theres reason fb is so addictive; ganja started from india :p

video was very good but audio is terrible alot of crackling on it and mike is to near so of the peoples mouths

Ok, where is the wall tab? That didn't need to be so long and waffley, or such bad quality or unprofessional.

I was looking forward to these improvements.... but now Im just worried. It sounds like they don't know what they are talking about. Talking about rich interesting content people put their time into which are shown in their profiles in application boxes. Yes, some of it is interesting and thought out, but most is plain annoying, and I can see everything getting really messy real quick, like much messier than things are now.

They say they want to make our profiles more "cleaner" and less cluttered, but they won't allow us to collapse our mini feed? The mini feed makes are profile look even more cluttered. What if I didn't want people to know what I was doing in my mini feed? That violates my privacy, and it should be changed back immediately!

Nice idea's - as said the audio is awful ( surely someone could clean up the audio file )

Anyone seen

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/23/facebook_xss_flaw/

? ?

ok, the developers get a beta preview of the new setup, how about giving the users a beta preview too.

I really don't understand why these people are making all these changes. They must be bored, making all that money.

Also, I think this video is a load of shit. All I hear from this dickhead is capitalistic jargon and marketing mumbo-jumbo. He keeps repeating himself. I'm wondering what exactly the point behind all of this is.

Might have a little work to go on the video/audio aspect. Hell, don't even worry about it... guess we'll see it all when it comes out anyway!

I think it sounds really neat.

No, Paul, they aren't just bored. As they explained in the video, they are trying to find easier ways to make deeper connections between facebook users. Just because you have a great product, doesn't mean you can't improve it.

Also, it's understandable that they don't give the users a beta tab. For one thing, its probably a copyright danger, and for another, look at how many people comment on the pictures and videos that don't even read the entire note or watch the entire video. People are too lazy to do research and find out what is really going on.

Keep up the great work, Facebook!

Have any of you complainers ever watched a google video? where they have guest speakers come in? google does the same exact thing...its really not a big deal...

the only thing i don't like about the new layout is how it defaults to the feed page first...personally i like how my home page has everything on it, without having to click on tabs...scrolling up and down is a lot faster than clicking through each tab

Great video, cant wait for the changes!!!!

Hmm. You know, at first I was against the changes but watching this video and learning more about them actually changed my mind. I like them and can't wait for the changes!

facebook could have done this as a screencast It would ahve been much cleaner and much more functional.. but tht is teh designer in me talking..

From what I can see the new changes look awesome.. keep up the good work guys and gals.. I love facebook..

and if you wnat to do the screencast thing hit me up. at http://www.ricardomcrae.com

i'll watch it

so long story short... whats actually happening???

Does Facebook really read this?

VIDEO

It SHOULD have been in a YouTube like format where you can see how long it is, where you are in the length, and definitely have to have the PAUSE button because it's soooo long.

The picture should be of a greater value so we can see what's on the screen, in focus, so we can see what you're talked about. What we saw is like we were very farsighted and weren't wearing our glasses, and the talk wasn't very clear as well.

Quit adjusting the focus (the in and out) and contrast soooooo much!

Do you think that they will be reading this and make changes?

...everyone stop being ignorant about the video.xD
seriously.they didnt plan to record it.someone probably just popped out their phone or something.

and about the story over the mini feed..

ITS ANNOYING.just let us hide it and get rid of the thing.who LIKES the mini-feed?not to sound cynical...but its really just something else to scroll through.and if i thought that was a pain at first on my page, i wouldnt dare scroll through someone else's 109358900 apps.by the time i got down to their Walls, id have freakin arthritis.

LET US CLOSE THE MINIFEED!!!!!!

When is the official launch?

20 MINS! Eff this.

BEFORE YOU WATCH:

For users, the good info is between 5:00 - 13:00

lets jus w8 n c wat happens !

This looks great. I love the Custom Applications tab. I was worried that things like Notes and Videos would be lost in the sea of the applications. I think the only feature I don't particularly like is the Mini-Feed but I am guessing you can disable it since you can choose to disable it in the applications you add but I love the overall concept of mini-feed - like controlling the size and content visible for first viewing.

esto parece grabado por un chino de estos que graban las peliculas en el cine y lo cuelgan en internet xD

supongo que querian que no excediera de 150 megas pero la calidad es un poco lamentable

Thanks Triston H for the heads up that the good part starts at the 5 min mark. I was about to X out and decided to check out the comments. I also agree that putting this on the web was probably a second thought. It was probably made for people who missed the meeting or who wanted to take the meeting with them for future references. There's always growing pains in any business.

who ever sits throught this video must have no life lol seriusly the aduio on it i had to turn up speakers weren't loud enough and boring...

there's no point watching something if all you're going to do is complain

i'm not going to watch it cause i don't really care

i'm just looking forward to a better profile :)

yeah...deff fix the video, so u dont have to wait to skip past some parts...and also

WHEN IS THIS GONNA CHANGE, they keep talkin about how in spring they are gonna change the facebook. but when?

I would love to watch this but I can't make out what buddy is saying

They are gonna change it after they give application developers time to change their applications to the new profile. They have already given the new profile to application developers so it shouldn't be too long before we get to use the new profile; maybe 2-3 more weeks.

wow you'd think FACEBOOK could come up with a better video then this.

vid sux

I would like to know who is using flash photography of this... wow, how did that work for you? 0.o
As for those complaining about not understanding anything being said, it is interesting how I had no problems. Yes, the quality is not the greatest; however, you may want to get your ears, speakers, or system checked.

I look forward to the changes! Keep up the great work!

horrible quality!

Watch an Apple Keynote and then do this again. Thats how you need to do it. Direct image feed of what is being presented, and split screen to the presenter when necessary. Also, direct feed to the Mic, that can be solved with a $5 cable from Radio Shack. These are the kind of video's I expect from a guy at a presentation with a video phone. I am really interested in this, and really want to watch it, but its tough. Nice to see you guys are using Keynote though. I don't think Facebook's budget, at least from what we hear, is so strained that a few decent cameras, or hell, hire a video production company. I know you can do it, you did it with that presentation Zuckerburg did not long ago.

Good god this is horrible quality!

so they change everything..then how long will it be until someone makes a clone of the "old" facebook and people flock there?..and the "new" facebook dies a horrible death..

hahahha hugh you genius
'both the video and audio are basically unwatchable'
uni of aukland must be a prestigious place dude

amaç?:D

looks like great ideas,, but the video quality is the worst i've seen in a long time from a big company..

1) Video was WAY too long
2) Video quality was VERY poor
3) Audio quality was poor

i would of though facebook could of produced a professional video like the f8 one!

it's way too poor ,In video,and in Audio , u r professional u should have done it better than this way.

wayyyy tooo long i agree with Carl!
and someone write on me WALL!!!!!

Tyronne (Winnipeg, MB) wrote
at 5:43pm on May 31st, 2008
"so they change everything..then how long will it be until someone makes a clone of the "old" facebook and people flock there?..and the "new" facebook dies a horrible death.."

My guess is "never", knowing that it has never happened before. Facebook has done major changes and redesigns to the site in the past, such as in May 2007, April 2007, September 2006, February 2006, August 2005, etc. and none of those major changes resulted in any significant net flocking of users to another site.

i am actually shocked that they didnt just send out a voting form for the new features.. the whole thing is probably gonna be cool but the thing is we can all go elsewhere. i'm guessing their revenue comes from advertising so they want people to stay on here..

I don't understand how being able to add custom app tabs to the top will work. I can seeing adding one or two, but you know there are gonna be crazy people out there trying to add a tab for every shitty app they use. How is Facebook controlling the amount of tabs that fit?

I actually like most of the changes, though it does suck that people like myself who are capable of using restraint when it comes to applications and page clutter will lose the opportunity to showcase one or two valuable apps on the home profile screen (ie - "What I'm Listening To", etc.).

When are these new profiles actually coming out?!? I want to see this in use, I'm tired of reading about it. Can you demo it for us?

tabs are a good idea. However, I think this is a pretty common theme,"FEED" is not something users really like. Couldn't we have an option to put the second tab (the one with the so-called "more static" information) first?
a lot of the information that shows up in the feed is so irrelevant that we end up deleting it anyway.
Maybe a way of REALLY giving control to the user would be to allow people to rearrange the tabs in the order they want them. I guarantee the vast majority of users would put their essential information first, not the feed.

Honestly, I felt that the real thrust of this was to give more business to application developers, thus making more money for the whole enterprise.
I personally am a "neat desk" freak, so yes, i tend to delete all the feed stories which show up from most applications. Honestly, I don't want everyone seeing a lot of those things. For instance, I have an application called "Pieces of Flair". I love it. Great application. Great way to send funny, cute, meaningful phrases to my friends. But I have lots of other friends on here who I'm not as close with. I don't want them to see personal exchanges between me and my more intimate friends. Neither do I want random strangers on Facebook to see those things. That is a definite invasion of my privacy. One of my favorite features of Facebook is that it provides more privacy than other social networking sites. All I can say is that we'd better still have the option to determine what we want included or excluded from the feed.

y a Cesar, te digo, es cierto, no? desgraciadamente, los chinos hacen mejor con menos dinero disponible... jajajajaja

ok, have to recant a little of what i said just based on the video. I just read some updates that went into more depth about the feed, and i really like the idea of having control over what is going to get published before it does.

A Little Advice for Facebook:

I think that a billion dollar business could afford a decent video camera to record the conferences. Also, Facebook, being as high-tech as it as and being as popular is it is, I would think that they would post a more organizer presentation just for the users of facebook. Facebook could have at least given some time to create an online presentation for the users and developers of facebook. But, if they did do this it would be important to make the presentation short and simple. I do not think an average Facebook user would want to watch a 20 minute video with bad picture and audio quality. So, if there are anymore redesigns and/or inivations that make Facebook clean and simple for the user, please let us know in a more organized and clean way. I mean you are promote and a clean and organized Facebook profile. Why not give us a clean and organized information presentation?

Thank you,
Jeffrey E. Levinson - Facebook User

why are you people making such a big deal about the video, its not about the quality of the video or audio its about telling us whats going on who cares about the quality calm down

wow how gay is Jeff Levinson like shit.
and go chelsea!

I agree that the Video quality is poor, but I must disagree with Chelsea
Geransky, Quality is everything.
Without a quality Video to exemplify future changes, there is not the ability to foresee whats ahead.

I watched and enjoyed the entire thing. The content was great.

True, I felt a bit spoiled after watching the WWDC presentation by Steve Jobs in High Definition with the slides appearing edited in, crystal clear to read and whatnot, since this isn't quite near that... but I AM thankful that this video was shared with us, I couldn't have been there so I'm very glad to still be able to watch the presentation and hear what they have to say.

I hope all the quality-bashing people on here don't result in us not getting another video anytime soon because I honestly felt that the video was THAT much more informative than the occasional screen shot.

Long, boring and non-powerful presentation. The sound is very bad and... what's the point in reading charts?

this is a long boring, presentation.
the sound is very low, and the quality is bad as well.
why couldnt a billion dollar company make a good clip?

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so when is this going to be happening to facebook.?

The audio is bad. They could have definitely spent more money to make the video more professional

Thanks for letting us in on the basics. I'm sure we'll all get used to it, transitions are always a bit difficult, especially in computer land ;)

Omg, everyone stop going on about the poor video/audio quality.
The main reason they posted the vid is for our information.
Not so everyone can experience a guy on stage in High Definition with 7.1 surround sound... geees.

borin vid lol

i♥ facebook programmers

I would have expected a more high quality video/audio. the content is quite interesting.

content good video/audio very poor had a hard job to hear it all

i only have one problem, COULORED PROFILES, everyone wants COULORED PROFILES!!!! The rest is awsome!!!!

Colored profiles woudl be very simple too :) We aren't asking for 65 Million Colors :P

Just a couple 100 :P

I wasn't there but I am very surprise to see how cheap & poor this press event looks like. I am still a Public Relations student but honestly I would have expected more from Facebook. We can do better press events at school! Disapointed.

If you guys need a videographer, I will fill that need!

www.holtarts.com

OMGGG
dis is was like the most boring 20min of my whoooole life.....

Seems this is the only place to post a opinion about "THE NEW FACEBOOK"
I just tried out this new feature & I don't like the new format at all- Its way more Clumsy and THE MAIN PAGE don't show the applications you want seen- it doesn't even show your basic wall
this is no good- the new format
And id like Facebook to remain as is

this new look is crap...

I hate new facebook!

New look,This is cool.
Vid to long (I stopped @ 9 min), simply sweet.

EVERYBODY SHOULD START POSTING ABOUT WHEN THEY [[[STOPPED]]] WATCHING THE VIDEO....lol.

Oh yeah I forgot:

I wish people would stop complaining about upgrades, just because they're too damn lazy to figure out how to use the New FB.

But the video is STILL really long. BITES.

I got a little bored. But the basic info was good. =) When is the change?? I cant wait!!!!! I hope this new change will be useful and not complicated. Does any1 know when the change is to happen??

I just tried to watch the video and it was' not available at this time'.
I'm really not sure that we need a "New Facebook" either!! I'm completely happy with facebook as it is.
But can someone please tell me why in the world people are allowed to bash and disrespect and speak horrible slander about others on fb and no one seems to care?? Other than the one being slandered for all to see,that is.Facebook only blocks the offending slander from the person being abused,and allows others to still read it.Absurd is what it is!!They should be sued for most of the slander I've seen.
As for the 'old fb', I'm okay with it.

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prefer the old facebook design - go and see your HCI guys!