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Reply #51: Here's Mr. Atkinson calling for NUCLEAR GENOCIDE - Family Security Matters calls it "powerful...." [View All]
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charles t (912 posts) 
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51. Here's Mr. Atkinson calling for NUCLEAR GENOCIDE - Family Security Matters calls it "powerful...."
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Now that Mr. Atkinson's call for Bush to be "President for Life" has caused Family Security Matters to suddenly scrub him from their website, it's interesting to look at another of Mr. Atkinson's articles.
"America's Choice" was published by Family Security Matters on May 30, 2007. Like his current rant, it is oonly available in Google cache:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:6FSguz_U_Q0J:www.fa...
Here is some of what Family Security Matters has had to say since May 30
"FSM Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson explains how the imposition of one civilization’s belief systems upon others has marked global conflict throughout the millennia. How is America’s current dilemma similar to that which caused the fall of Rome? Read his powerful analysis."
America's Choice
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......The collapse of ‘Pax Romana’ and the Roman Empire started when the ancient Romans recoiled from violence and refused to countenance the mass slaughter of their enemies. Trapped between the advance of the Huns and the river Danube, a natural boundary of the Roman Empire, the Gothic nation faced extinction. Their attempts to force entry into the empire had already been repulsed with heavy losses, so they begged for, and received, from the Emperor Valens, permission to enter the Roman world. This act of mercy, the admission of a huge number of unconquered tribes of barbarians into the precincts of the Roman empire, lead inevitably to the destruction of the empire and the fall of Rome. After the Goths crossed the river they changed from refugees to invaders, killed the Emperor and sacked the Empire.
Hence a civilization can exist only as long as it dominates by violence all other communities, and the moment a dominant community recoils from violence, its rule is challenged. That is, it becomes attacked by all the other communities, in one way or another, as they attempt to assert their beliefs upon the faltering civilization.
Technology has now sped up the nature of war. Once it required massive human effort to conquer a nation by use of arms, now it does not: it requires just resolve and an advantage in technology.
The power of modern weapons means that an unknown attacker can destroy a city in a flash, which means that an undeclared enemy can destroy a group of cities, which is a community, in a flash. Technology has not only dramatically sped up the clash of communities, but it has introduced uncertainty as to the identity of the aggressor.
Now to wage war successfully a community must be ruthless, merciless, resolute and unhesitating: the moment it believes it can smite its enemies is the moment it must act. Otherwise, it will only discover that its enemies have acted when its own cities are incinerated.
Israel, an American ally, has been warned that it will be wiped off the face of the earth by its Iranian neighbor. This means that unless Israel razes Iran, Iran will make good its threat. The choice now facing Israel is the choice now facing all nuclear armed communities: inflict genocide or commit suicide.
American military efforts are now undermined by the timidity of the American nation for Americans fear to employ modern weapons. When General Douglas MacArthur made it clear that victory in Korea could be obtained only by using nuclear weapons, he was hastily removed from command: but he was right. The Korean War was not won, but concluded by a truce that has allowed the enemies of America to improve their weapons and become a much more dangerous threat to the USA than they were in 1953.
There was no need for the Americans to repel with tanks and troops the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait; the Iraqis could have been compelled to withdraw merely by the use, or threat, of a few nuclear missiles.
There is no need for the current (2007) presence of American troops in Iraq. By judicious use of nuclear weapons, either the Iraqis would all be dead, or the survivors would be obedient to American demands.
The once all-powerful Americans, who ruthlessly incinerated Nagasaki and Hiroshima, have declined into a people who believe nuclear war is 'unthinkable'. This is the opposite view of their enemies who publicly demonstrated their glee at the announcement of 911; imagine their joy at the news that New York had been vaporized: these people dream of wiping out America.
Americans can now easily crush their enemies, but every hour the USA does not use its present superiority in nuclear weapons to dominate other communities, is another hour given to its enemies to develop and use their nuclear weapons to eradicate the American community.
Americans have a choice: use nuclear weapons on their enemies or have their enemies use them on Americans; ruthlessly uphold 'Pax America' or blindly follow 'Pax Romana' into oblivion.
FamilySecurityMatters.org Contributing Editor Philip Atkinson is the British born founder of ourcivilisation.com and author of A Study of Our Decline. He is a philosopher specializing in issues concerning the preservation of Western civilization. Mr. Atkinson receives mail at rpa@ourcivilisation.com .
Interesting that this collection of Bushbots at Family Security Matters has endorsed this explicit call for nuclear genocide as "powerful analysis" for 3 months, and only now scrubs it from their site when they judge his current article to be too much of an embarrassment.
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Group that advocated Bush become "President-for-Life" linked to Bush Administration itself ck4829 Aug-13-07 01:38 AM #0 ![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fdiscuss%2Fimages%2Fmiddle_mesg_level.gif)
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Oh, yeah, bored, delusions of grandeur, a worshipper at the feet of power, nealmhughes Aug-14-07 12:53 AM #52 These people think Jesus wants them to start WWIII. They think the Earth is 6,000 years old. impeachdubya Aug-13-07 09:58 PM #40 I agree. Worst Case Scenario, this is an extremely idiotic trial balloon, like that "cancel the impeachdubya Aug-14-07 03:48 AM #58 Phew.... there's an article on there that says ALL Iraqis should have been "slaughtered." quiet.american Aug-13-07 09:17 AM #21 ![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2Fdiscuss%2Fimages%2Fmesg_level.gif)
So, how did that whole "Caesar" thing work out, anyway? ROME lived happily ever after, right? dicksteele Aug-13-07 02:12 AM #7 Gotta launder their filthy money somewhere. And the loonier the better, easier to manipulate. nt glitch Aug-13-07 01:27 PM #28 I Wonder If The "Good Germans", at First said," These guys are just Whackos, They're just a Joke" Wiley50 Aug-13-07 02:36 AM #10 I think they did, if I remember "They Thought They Were Free" correctly. nt glitch Aug-13-07 01:28 PM #29 You equated people with mental illness with serial killers and sociopaths. piedmont Aug-14-07 04:02 PM #61 Why wait for hime to conquer Iraq lets just send him over there and let him be permanet leader there sce56 Aug-13-07 07:35 PM #31 FSM also shares their initials with the Flying Spaghetti Monster. impeachdubya Aug-13-07 10:02 PM #41 Here's Mr. Atkinson calling for NUCLEAR GENOCIDE - Family Security Matters calls it "powerful...." charles t Aug-14-07 12:16 AM #51 And I'm sure no one would mind us killing 95+% of the Iraqi population MasterDarkNinja Aug-14-07 05:53 PM #63 The weenies at Stormfront certainly like FSM and Philip Atkinson... The Night Owl Aug-15-07 05:29 PM #74 Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
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