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15 things you should know about “The Race”

By Michelle Malkin  •  July 9, 2008 08:13 AM

1arazatwins002-copy.jpg With the La Raza twins scheduled to speak at the National Council of La Raza this Saturday, I devoted my syndicated column today to telling the truth about “The Race.” I’ve blogged these points before, but they are worth repeating as McCain, Obama, and the press whitewash “The Race’s” open-borders radicalism.

Stefan Sharkansky at Sound Politics reports that a new La Raza/The Race preschool has opened up in Seattle–subsidized with tax dollars. Meanwhile, San Diego has gone ahead and passed its mayoral-backed resolution declaring La Raza/The Race Day. Here’s video. Those who protested the decision were slammed as…racists.

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15 things you should know about “The Race”
by Michelle Malkin
Creators Syndicate
Copyright 2008

Only in America could critics of a group called “The Race” be labeled racists. Such is the triumph of left-wing identity chauvinists, whose aggressive activists and supine abettors have succeeded in redefining all opposition as “hate.”

Both Barack Obama and John McCain will speak this week in San Diego at the annual conference of the National Council of La Raza, the Latino organization whose name is Spanish for, yes, “The Race.” Can you imagine Obama and McCain paying homage to a group of white people that called themselves that? No matter. The presidential candidates and the media have legitimized “The Race” as a mainstream ethnic lobbying group and marginalized “The Race’s” critics as intolerant bigots. The unvarnished truth is that the group is a radical ethnic nationalist outfit that abuses your tax dollars and milks p.c. politics to undermine our sovereignty.

Here are 15 things you should know about “The Race:”

15. “The Race” supports driver’s licenses for illegal aliens.

14.”The Race” demands in-state tuition discounts for illegal alien students that are not available to law-abiding US citizens and law-abiding legal immigrants.

13. “The Race” vehemently opposes cooperative immigration enforcement efforts between local, state, and federal authorities.

12. “The Race” opposes a secure fence on the southern border.

11. “The Race” joined the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee in a failed lawsuit attempt to prevent the feds from entering immigration information into a key national crime database–and to prevent local police officers from accessing the data.

10. “The Race” opposed the state of Oklahoma’s tough immigration enforcement-first laws, which cut off welfare to illegal aliens, put teeth in employer sanctions, and strengthened local-federal cooperation and information-sharing.

9. “The Race” joined other open-borders, anti-assimilationists and sued to prevent Proposition 227, California’s bilingual education reform ballot initiative, from becoming law.

8. “The Race” bitterly protested common-sense voter ID provisions as an “absolute disgrace.”

7. “The Race” has consistently opposed post-9/11 national security measures at every turn.

6. Former “Race” president Raul Yzaguirre, Hillary Clinton’s Hispanic outreach advisor said this: “US English is to Hispanics as the Ku Klux Klan is to blacks.” He was referring to US English the nation’s oldest, largest citizens’ action group dedicated to preserving the unifying role of the English language in the United States. “The Race” also pioneered Orwellian open-borders Newspeak and advised the Mexican government on how to lobby for illegal alien amnesty while avoiding the terms “illegal” and “amnesty.”

5. “The Race” gives mainstream cover to a poisonous subset of ideological satellites, led by Movimiento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan, or Chicano Student Movement of Aztlan (MEChA), which the late GOP Rep. Charlie Norwood rightly characterized as “a radical racist group…[and] one of the most anti-American groups in the country, which has permeated U.S. campuses since the 1960s, and continues its push to carve a racist nation out of the American West.”

4. “The Race” is currently leading a smear campaign against staunch immigration enforcement leaders and has called for TV and cable news netowrks to keep immigration enforcement proponents off the airwaves–in addition to pushing for Fairness Doctrine policies to shut up their foes. The New York Times reported that current “Race” president Janet Murguia believes “hate speech” should “not be tolerated, even if such censorship were a violation of First Amendment rights.”

3. “The Race” sponsors militant ethnic nationalist charter schools subsidized by your public tax dollars (at least $8 million in federal education grants). The schools include “Aztlan Academy” in Tucson, AZ, the Mexicayotl Academy in Nogales, AZ, Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School in St. Paul, Minn., and Academia Semillas del Pueblo in Los Angeles, whose principal inveighed: “We don’t want to drink from a White water fountain, we have our own wells and our natural reservoirs and our way of collecting rain in our aqueducts. We don’t need a White water fountain…ultimately the White way, the American way, the neo liberal, capitalist way of life will eventually lead to our own destruction.”

2. “The Race” has perfected the art of the p.c. shakedown at taxpayer expense, pushing relentlessly to lower home loan standards for Hispanic borrowers, reaping millions in federal “mortgage counseling” grants, seeking special earmarks, and partnering with banks that do business with illegal aliens.

1. “The Race” thrives on ethnic supremacy–and the elite sheeple’s unwillingness to call it what it is. As historian Victor Davis Hanson observes: “[The] organization’s very nomenclature ‘The National Council of La Raza’ is hate speech to the core. Despite all the contortions of the group, Raza (as its Latin cognate suggests), reflects the meaning of ‘race”‘ in Spanish, not ‘the people’ — and that’s precisely why we don’t hear of something like ‘The National Council of the People’ which would not confer the buzz notion of ethnic, racial, and tribal chauvinism.”

The fringe is the center. The center is the fringe. Viva La Raza.

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Previous La Raza/The Race blogging here.

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#1
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:22 am, Goldwater Knight said:

“The Race†sponsored by Absolut.

#2
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:24 am, rooster said:

Heartbreaking, that our politicians allow this hate group to collect from our over-taxed dollars.

#3
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:30 am, Rob said:

They are taking over. The largest school sponsered “club” in the Los Angeles School system is MEChA, a student group of La Raza.

LOOK AT THE CURRENT MEXICAN POPULATION OF LOS ANGELES SCHOOLS! (click here)

It is unstoppable… we are living in Mexico in Southern California now…

Coming soon to a city near you…

#4
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:33 am, expat said:

Politicians = Weak self centered only care about my own personal wealth and power and the constituents be damned.

McClueless is a politition therefore he cares about McClueless and no one else. He will do whatever he feels is necessary to further his own goals and spit on the base in his quest for power. That being said he is still better than the other Dipstick empty suit who has not had an original thought since 4th grade.

#5
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:40 am, changjin89 said:

Wednesday Morning Greetings Mrs. Malkin and loyal community. Here is a vote of appreciation and admiration for so thoroughly yet succinctly hitting the nail on the head regarding the foremost racist threat to our country, one that has been building for decades, one that has been aided and abetted by a wide range of purblind politicians and others. Here is also a prayer that you will remain at your post calling your fellow countrymen to their necessities; none do so well as you.

#6
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:55 am, JHSII said:

This should be an easy question:

If McCain wants my vote (and I am a Conservative) - why is he at La Raza?

#7
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:58 am, ACHefty said:

This should be an easy question:

The answer is painfully obvious. He doesn’t think he needs it. Conservatives are supposed to be “in the bag.” McCain takes conservatives for granted the same way Dems do to black voters.

Shame.

Issues will win elections if the politician is willing to take a stand and stay put.

#8
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:12 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:

ACHefty
The answer is painfully obvious. He doesn’t think he needs it. Conservatives are supposed to be “in the bag.†McCain takes conservatives for granted the same way Dems do to black voters.

It just might be a bit of a shock to Juan Mac that not as many of us are ‘in the bag’ as he thinks. There are times I wonder if that damn fool wants to be President. Perhaps after going to the La Raza meeting he can speak to CAIR.
He is one arrogant fool.

#9
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:18 am, swmbo said:

Surrounded on the left by idiots
Surrounded on the right by idiots

What was it Chesty Puller said

#10
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:20 am, Irish Rose said:

Michelle, for the sake of your journalistic integrity you would do well to pay attention to the strongly racist comments that some of your respondents are posting.

Like these two from yesterday.

On July 8th, 2008 at 9:11 am, ArizonaNeanderthal said:
Whose idea was it to send John McCain down to Mexico
Worse yet, who let him back in? He is so enamored with Mexico perhaps he can run for office there.
McCain to Mexico
Obama and Mama to Ragheadistan

On July 8th, 2008 at 9:28 am, Rob said:

Irish Rose said: I see that you don’t differentiate here between illegals and legal immigrants from Mexico, Rob… you just lump them all together.

There are a lot of issues that I think are destroying America. But my not liking to push 1 for English, gang tagging in my once clean neighborhood, free lunches given to most of the students, free tuition for illegals, etc, etc, etc, I guess the answer to your question is, Mexicans in general.</

In light of comments like this I have to ask… is this a hate blog now? Because I read comments that are very similar over at sites like Stormfront.

If it’s not, then you need to pay attention. You have quite a few respondents here who are overtly racist and you need to moderate these threads very, very closely.

Just a heads up.

#11
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:24 am, swmbo said:

Not racist Irish Rose, just tired of people enjoying the benefits of America without contributing to the cost of said benefits.

#12
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:24 am, Travis McGee said:

Thanks to our open border traitors, there won’t be 50 United States in 25 years.

#13
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:26 am, Rob said:

The Irish Rose is now the Irish NOSE for sticking it in everyone else’s business! lol

#14
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:28 am, JHSII said:

I love the projection from the usual suspect. No surprise here.

#15
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:28 am, Travis McGee said:

Irish Rose,
When your nation is being invaded with the helpful cooperation of our own leaders and elites, people do tend to get upset. If we were being invaded by Germans, would you be upset if we called them Huns? Get over your PC-ness. Your attempting to link this great site to hate sites like S.F. is transparent trolling, an attempt to tie the sites together on search engines. I see through your game, Rose. Take your PC schtick elsewhere.

#16
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:28 am, khan said:

Rose, do yourself a favor and consult a dictionary. Otherwise, you look like a government-educated fool.

#17
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:30 am, khan said:

#15:

Ooh, nice catch.

#18
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:33 am, Gator70 said:

Oh yeah, let’s all just shut up about it and it will go away! Yeah, this is how it all came about anyways isn’t it? Won’t say anything about anything cause we don’t wanna be labeled as racists. Now my tax dollars go to fund racially motivated schools ect,ect,ect. To heck with that! I am speaking my white mind. I am still baffled as to why this same enthusiasm and vigor is not focused on the Mexican government? Seems to me those south of the border have poor priorities. I guess it’s easier to poke your finger in the eye of a government that allows free speech and is run by politicians that are weak and care nothign about it’s own citizens. Do groups like La Raza really believe we are all going to just sit here and take it? This country is going to explode yet.

#19
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:33 am, Michelle Malkin said:

Like these two from yesterday.

The Ragheadistan comment has been deleted. As for the second comment, I do not agree with it, but I’m not going to censor it.

#20
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:37 am, Wade said:

The Irish Rose is now the Irish NOSE for sticking it in everyone else’s business! lol

Perfect. She is also known as “Miss Shiny Badge”

#21
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:38 am, pueblo1032 said:

Boy MM this one should sure generate a lot of response… For two MAJOR pols to BOW to the wishes of such a RACIST GROUP as LA RAZA just baffles me. This is no different than MR. KENNEDY and MR NIXON addressing the annual meeting of the KU KLUX KLAN in 1960. My question to the reps of the REPUBS and DEMS for POTUS, when are you scheduled to speak to CAIR???

#22
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:41 am, Wade said:

Great article Michelle, what are the Las Vegas odds any of these issues make the MSM?

#23
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:46 am, khan said:

Of course, the La Raza meeting comes on the heels of yesterday’s meeting with the “League of United Latin American Citizens” (what a joke). Here’s typical Juan McCain shoving it in the face of all the McCainaanites who’ve screamed at us here, “But he’s changed! He says he’s going to secure the border!!!”

“Senator John McCain told a major Hispanic group here Tuesday that he remained committed to passing the kind of immigration legislation that angered many Republican voters last year, but he underscored that he intended to first secure U.S. borders.”

McCain has been disingenuous about this from the start, carefully choosing his words of, “Americans want the border secured first”, knowing that most people will ignore the “then” that follows.

#24
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:47 am, ajmontana said:

It is time (well past due) that we have a national primary day or days, divide the country into three groups not just geographic and then we may not get saddled with choices some of us never had a chance in deciding the outcome. this current system is a joke.

#25
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:48 am, khan said:

This other McCain quote should be a slap in the face to every American, included Irish Rose:

“Many Americans, with good cause, didn’t believe us when we said we would secure our borders, and so we failed in our efforts.”

#26
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:50 am, khan said:

AJ, I cannot get behind that for two major reasons:

1) political parties control their primaries and how their delegates are allotted and candidates chosen.

2) it is a state’s sovereign right to hold an election (minus federal elections) whenever and however they choose.

Please do not advocate the abdication of states rights.

#27
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:50 am, Barry F. said:

With the La Raza twins scheduled to speak at the National Council of La Raza this Saturday, I devoted my syndicated column today to telling the truth about “The Race.â€

Ouch! That’s going to leave a mark! ;-)

But, it is something that needs to be said, Michelle, and you did a fine job laying it out in this article for people that don’t keep up on this type of issue. Well done!

#28
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:51 am, longbow said:

This is just dangerous craziness, that both candidates will pander to this race supremacy hate group “La Raza”.

Someone please tell me which candidate it is that will fight against this craziness, and also against the other insanities like Gullible Warming, loss of First Amendment rights, and who will secure our borders?

What have we come to as a country when these two are our choices?

#29
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:55 am, Weary Citizen said:

La Raza = 5th Column

IR, I now understand why you support mcamensty. You are obviously one of those “compassionate conservatives”. You obviously support mcamensty’s policies. That’s cool, but then don’t pretend you are a conservative who is holding thier nose and voting for this horrible candidate. You throw around the race card as much as Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.

Now, as for the hispanic invasion we are experiencing, that is a major problem. What, I can’t say hispanic w/o being called a biggot? Look, our forefathers understood we can not have too many immigrants from one nation or distinct culture. To do so, endangers the “melting pot” as the groups will not assimilate unless forced to. Hence why we have had moratoriums on immigraiton in the past. We can easily see the impact of allowing too many hispanics to immigrate here (not to even mention the illegal version). They begin pushing for spanish over english. They refuse to assimilate. They congregate in “barrios” where everyhting is in spnaish. They fly their native flags over the US flag. Their loyalties are split. They begin forming powerful groups to push their own ethnic agenda (eg la raza, lulac, etc). Therefore, we MUST reduce immigration levels from hispanic (and all for that fact) countries in order to allow the melting pot to work. So does calling a spade “a spade” make me a racist? No it just means I have not let PC, or fear of being called names, blind me to the obvious. La raza is a dangerous orgnanization that is using our “compassion” and PC against us. And for the record, I grew up in Texas nand have had and still have friends of hispanic origin who don’t think I am racist (as I am sure you beleive). The difference between my friends and the newest arrivals is they see themselves as Americans, not mexicnas or whatever nationality. If we do not act to curb the growing power of these ethnic groups advocating their own race over others, then our children will pay a very high price. Of course, that remains tobe seen, but I say why take a chance wiht my and all americans children’s future? All risk with little return is not a good gamble.

#30
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:55 am, swmbo said:

Having strong feelings on racial issues does not make me a racist. One of the reasons myself and many other people are soooo ready to explode is because we have been expected to be PC instead of being allowed to voice a legitimate complaint and concern.

So take your labels elsewhere, I AM NOT BUYING IT.

#31
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:55 am, khan said:

More McCain:

McCain also spoke of one of his fellow prisoners of war in Vietnam, a Mexican-American, of the many Hispanic names etched on the Vietnam War memorial and of the many Hispanic troops now serving in Iraq and Afghanistan who are not yet American citizens.

Those men and women are my brothers and sisters, my fellow Americans,” he said, “an association that means more to me than any other.

#32
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:57 am, khan said:

Mexican isn’t a race. Neither is Middle Easterner. Their being no such thing as race aside, the traditional classification of Caucasoid would include Hispanics and Arab peoples.

#33
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:01 am, Rob said:

Weary Citizen said: I…have friends of hispanic origin who don’t think I am racist (as I am sure you believe). The difference between my friends and the newest arrivals is they see themselves as Americans, not mexicnas or whatever nationality.

Ditto

#34
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:03 am, abstractmind said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 8:55 am, JHSII said:
This should be an easy question:

If McCain wants my vote (and I am a Conservative) - why is he at La Raza?

I second that. Irish, you’re one of his supporters that posts here. I’d like to hear you give me a solid reason to J’s question there. I think it’s important to have that addressed.

#35
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:08 am, swmbo said:

I guess Irish Rose can’t take the truth.
Oh well, I have to go to work anyway.

#36
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:16 am, bananny said:

In welcoming La Raza to “America’s Finest City” (snort!), here’s San Diego Mayor Sanders’ take on La Raza:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BA71c-glA7g

And people wonder why we want out of San Diego. Again, a nice place to visit, but ya don’t wanna live there.

#37
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:28 am, Blind_Mule said:

I’m glad this column went out only thru MM’s vigilance on the subject of illegal aliens, The Racists and other groups like them people would listen to the tripe the MSMs dole out and have no idea what the real story is.

I think I’m going to start a group called “The Crackers” or maybe “The Saltines” would that be racist considering I’m half Seneca Indian and Half White and it seem’s to be alright for every race to call me that. Michelle if you need to delete this go ahead not pointing out the hypocrisy.

#38
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:30 am, Blind_Mule said:

that should read “just pointing out the hypocrisy

#39
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:31 am, Wraith said:

In light of comments like this I have to ask… is this a hate blog now? Because I read comments that are very similar over at sites like Stormfront.

Odd. Why would such a delicate PC flower be visting sites like Stormfront?

I too would like to know why McCain is pandering to “The Race”.

#40
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:35 am, Barry F. said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 10:28 am, Blind_Mule said:

…I think I’m going to start a group called “The Crackers†or maybe “The Saltines 

Maybe, La Mayoria or The Majority? ;-)

#41
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:42 am, Joe Green said:

Das Volk?

#42
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:45 am, Rob said:

Blind_Mule said: I think I’m going to start a group called “The Crackers†or maybe “The Saltinesâ€

If you noticed my link earlier showing the huge discrepancy of Mexicans to other races in Los Angeles schools, (here again) you will notice that whites are a real minority.

Well, there are support groups for Mexicans, MEChA. Blacks, African American Club. Asians, Asian Club. Even Pacific Islanders have their own club, the Pacific Islander Club. But White clubs are not allowed!

Is it time, since they are REALLY a minority now, for whites to get to have their own club??

#43
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:50 am, franksalterego said:

Will “La Raza” be of any concern, when you’re sitting in a line at the gas station?

Will “La Raza” be of any concern, when our economy is thrown into a shambles?

Will “La Raza” be of any concern, when you’re at the market, trying to figure out how you’re gonna’ pay for next can of beans?

Will “La Raza” be of any concern, when you’re out looking for a job?…The one you lost because of a tax on “The Rich.”

Will “La Raza” be of any concern, when your retirement funds go down the toilet?

Will “La Raza” be of any concern, when you flip the switch, and the lights don’t come on?

“La Raza” as an “issue” won’t amount to a BB in a Bucket.

#44
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:50 am, Speakup said:

I think the La Raza ites have been taking lessons from some radical sources.

A racially integrated community is a chronological term timed from the entrance of the first black family to the exit of the last white family.
Saul Alinsky

#45
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:57 am, Goldwater Knight said:

Saul Alinsky: Hillary’s thesis topic.

#46
On July 9th, 2008 at 11:05 am, xler8bmw said:

It’s time to dissolve this group of losers in this country.

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world

#47
On July 9th, 2008 at 11:06 am, Dread Pirate Roberts VIII said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 9:48 am, khan said:
This other McCain quote should be a slap in the face to every American, included Irish Rose:

“Many Americans, with good cause, didn’t believe us when we said we would secure our borders, and so we failed in our efforts.â€

That’s no slap in my face, Khan. He is saying they failed in their effort to pass CIR legislation, specifically because - and this was somehow a surprise to him - we didn’t believe that they were serious about securing the border first, even as they claimed they would.

Well, we didn’t. But if our congressional representatives were serious, and did in fact secure our borders, I am certain that this legislation would have passed. My feeling on citizenship, and the feeling of (I believe) a great majority of Americans, would be different on that issue if we thought that illegal immigration was no longer possible.

I know many will disagree here, and I admit to some conflicted thoughts on the matter, but politically at least, I have no doubt that McCain was 100% correct in his statement. I don’t see what was insulting about it.

#48
On July 9th, 2008 at 11:09 am, Dread Pirate Roberts VIII said:

That said, and back on topic: La Raza is a racist organization and should be isolated, shunned, and all politicians who pander to them should be publicly shamed and their careers ended.

That we have exactly two choices for President, and both are going to speak to these maggots proudly, is an unbelieveable state of affairs. Just effing unbelieveable.

#49
On July 9th, 2008 at 11:16 am, thewariscoming said:

Irish Rose, let’s see what you think about being PC after the mexicans start laughing in your Irish face that they took over.

Face it folks, rank-and-file Americans (whites mainly) are sick and tired of these Mexicans, and we know it’s going to be getting a lot worse. It’s inevitable that race is going to be a major factor in all this, whether we like it or not. YOU may not like to look at it in terms of race, but the mexicans do. And it won’t matter if they’re illegal or legal, the blood will be thicker than water.

#50
On July 9th, 2008 at 11:18 am, maisy said:

Both candidates are detestable and traitors to Americans. What are we to do??? Will Americans sit back and allow this country to be taken over?
They already have……….

#51
On July 9th, 2008 at 12:02 pm, abstractmind said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 10:50 am, franksalterego said:
Will “La Raza†be of any concern, when you’re sitting in a line at the gas station?

Will “La Raza†be of any concern, when our economy is thrown into a shambles?

Will “La Raza†be of any concern, when you’re at the market, trying to figure out how you’re gonna’ pay for next can of beans?

Will “La Raza†be of any concern, when you’re out looking for a job?…The one you lost because of a tax on “The Rich.â€

Will “La Raza†be of any concern, when your retirement funds go down the toilet?

Will “La Raza†be of any concern, when you flip the switch, and the lights don’t come on?

“La Raza†as an “issue†won’t amount to a BB in a Bucket.

That has to be the longest dodging attempt at a direct question i’ve seen since the last time i questioned lgm about something specific.

Him, I expect such behavior.
You, I should expect more from.

But i’ll address your post directly.

Yes, La Raza IS something I bear in mind, on a daily basis. As I’ve posted before I’ve lived beside (and believe i do now, working on that angle) illegals and the ill effects they have on the community.

If you want to talk about driving the economy into the ground, lets take a long and VERY hard look at the funds that are expended taking care of the illegals in our country. Lowball the number and call it the 12 million here, instead of the 20-30 million that could be here. The estimates of supporting even 12 million illegals runs into the BILLIONS of dollars. And for what?

Education for illegal children, and now people vying for college tuition that is funded from the taxpayers.

Healthcare(and not just emergency care) for illegals that BY ITSELF is not only expensive and drives healthcare costs skyward for those legally here and paying for service, but also takes needed time and resources away from said legal persons in their time of need.

Sitting in line at the gas pumps? This isnt the 70’s. And if they arent here using gas and taking up space at the pumps AND polluting the environment while driving illegally (fake license, no insurance, insert other offenses here)…well well well, something else that can be avoided.

If La Raza has their way, those will be Refried Beans, Amigo. Don’t kid yourself about food costs and things of those natures. Illegals are getting assistance with food, so THEY dont have to worry about their next meal. The rest of us who work for what we have and are legal…well, maybe you have a point. But not because of the reason you think.

As far as jobs, do those include the “ones americans just wont do” that i wont be able to get because illegals have come in and taken those as well? So, Obama is going to tax the job out of existance, and the lower paying jobs are being taken by McShamnesty’s illegals that are here or coming over…my my my, decisions decisions. Guess we better get our applications for lettuce picking now, right?

La Raza is an issue, whether you choose to turn a blind eye to it or not

SO! Back to the original question. Can you answer it and address it, or do we want to go over this line of dodging the issue for “Obama Bad, McCain Kinda Bad” banter all over again.

I, for one, want to hear an answer to the original.

#52
On July 9th, 2008 at 12:12 pm, greenfairie said:

When I look at our presidential candidates, all I can think is, “God must really be upset with us.”

On border issues, we lose both ways with these guys.

#53
On July 9th, 2008 at 12:16 pm, John Ansell said:

And the Thanks we get for letting illegal invaders march in protest of our laws. Bratton needs to take his lips off of Via gra grossa’s arse and resign for throwing 19 of his brave under the bus.

#54
On July 9th, 2008 at 12:50 pm, zorro said:

Great column Michelle. Maybe you should have it translated so Juan McCain’s staffers can read it.

#55
On July 9th, 2008 at 12:52 pm, josetheguerilla said:

The McCain camp is foolish, if they think they can get votes by kissing up to a racist organization like La Raza. The New York Times threw McCain under the bus, and so will La Raza. If anyone at the McCain camp has bothered to watch or listen to the Spanish speaking media in the United States, they would know that:

1) The Spanish MSM is in the tank for Obama. MSNBC doesn’t have anything on these clowns. The Spanish MSM is saying McCain is exactly like President Bush. They back Obama at every turn. This goes unchecked by anybody.

2) They back the idea that the reason the State of Arizona tightened up their immigration laws is because of American racists. They also tell their viewers that this racism is spreading across America.

3) The Spanish MSM often tells their viewers, and listeners that the McCain amnesty plan is unfair because he is going to require illegal aliens to pay a $3,000 fine to wait in line, and stay in the United States. The Spanish MSM says it’s unfair because President Reagan did not make them pay this fee. They often site racism as the reason why the fee is being asked for.

4) The Spanish speaking Media in the United States, believes that the Global War on Terror is a wasted effort.

5) Liberal bias on Spanish Radio, and Spanish TV goes unchecked by the right, because they don’t listen. As a result, the moonbat fringe has a monopoly on this type of media. McCain will loose the Hispanic vote.

Who needs McCain “points” when we could get a smoking hawt Luce lady poster? Heh.

/s/

José

#56
On July 9th, 2008 at 1:07 pm, Azygos said:

So when is McStain and Obmanation going to speak to the KKK or Nation of Islam? Because there is really no difference between La Raza and the KKK and Nation of Islam, all racist organizations. The difference being that the KKK and La Raza are white and Nation of Islam is predominately black.

Once again I have to say there is no Hispanic race they are white. Hispanic is a culture not a race.

#57
On July 9th, 2008 at 1:31 pm, AlohaGuy said:

Funny, Rusty was all over the Jesse Helms item making sure we all thought he was a racist, but silent on the subject of lefty racists.

#58
On July 9th, 2008 at 1:34 pm, docflash said:

The blacks better get on board with whitey on this one.The big entitlement ship is slowly sinking.One side has 97% of the black vote so they don’t need to worry about that.The big prize is getting the Hispanic vote and it is going to depend on who comes up with the most goodies.It doesn’t matter if the votes are legal or not.The illegal wave is flooding every large city in this country and getting away with it.

#59
On July 9th, 2008 at 1:55 pm, changjin89 said:

Greetings once more, Mrs. Malkin and loyal community. Just as I am deeply appreciative of Mrs. Malkin’s timely article today, so also I would like to express my regards to josetheguerilla for his fine, well-informed contribution to the comments section following the article. Not being “with it” culturally, I missed the meaning of the last sentence in his comment, but the body of his message was clear, necessary, detailed, and not supplied by anyone else. Best wishes to him professionally as well. With diligent authors and community members as such, the nation is not yet lost, dark across the horizon though it seems.

#60
On July 9th, 2008 at 1:57 pm, in_awe said:

Permanent locks on the black and hispanic voting blocks will spell doom for this country. The demographic trends indicate that those groups will have increasing weight in future elections and the dems have the formula for keeping their allegiance…this will not be an election by election thing. The dems see themselves as perched on the brink of permanent majority status in Congress and increasingly at the state level, too. This decade will be a turning point politically for this country.

#61
On July 9th, 2008 at 2:16 pm, Bulldogger said:

The simple fact is if we don’t start ridding ourselves from the open border pro amnesty politicians we will be forced to assimilate to the South American culture!

Hog wash you say? Well here is recent video of our next POTUS stating that our children need to learn Spanish!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZprtPat1Vk

#62
On July 9th, 2008 at 2:20 pm, Radiopatriot said:

Brilliant exposition, Michelle. This should be posted on every blog, and read aloud on every radio talk show.

Domestic enemies…

Andrea Shea King

#63
On July 9th, 2008 at 2:35 pm, sambo said:

Bulldogger said:
Hog wash you say? Well here is recent video of our next POTUS stating that our children need to learn Spanish!

Yesterday he wanted them to learn French because he was embarrassed that when Americans go to France they speak English.

#64
On July 9th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, right_on said:

IrishRose-

You obviously are very “race” conscious, and proud of your heritage, hence, your blog nom de plume. I would suggest you drop the Irish part of the name, and instead use AmericanRose. You may prevent accusations of your own racist leanings, and PCism, and maybe convince others that you are indeed a true patriot, not a tool. A rose by any other name may still smell sweet…

#65
On July 9th, 2008 at 2:58 pm, right_on said:

Rob-

But White clubs are not allowed!

Can you image what would happen if our conservative elected officials created a Congressional White Caucus, or Senate Conference of White Conservatives?

Labels of racists or copycats or divisionists would surely follow…a true sign that racism is alive and well in “dark” America.

#66
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:18 pm, sambo said:

right_on said:
IrishRose-

You obviously are very “race†conscious, and proud of your heritage, hence, your blog nom de plume. I would suggest you drop the Irish part of the name, and instead use AmericanRose.

I would suggest that you drop the Rose part and call yourself IrishThorne.

#67
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, RogersUmp said:

Laura mentioned this article on her radio show this morning and loved it!

#68
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:27 pm, Rob said:

Mexicans notoriously don’t have good feelings about blacks in Mexico. If they vote for Obama it is going to be with their pocketbook and not their culture.

This is how blacks are viewed in Mexico.. this is a popular Mexican comic book where the black kid shines shoes. We sure are more sensitive up here…

#69
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, Bill Grant said:

Choice A:

“Many Americans, with good cause, did not believe us when we said we would secure our borders, and so we failed in our efforts. We must prove to them that we can and will secure our borders first, while respecting the dignity and rights of citizens and legal residents of the United States.”
-John McCain

Choice B:

You know, I don’t understand when people are going around worrying about, “We need to have English- only.” They want to pass a law, “We want English-only. Now, I agree that immigrants should learn English. I agree with that. But understand this. Instead of worrying about whether immigrants can learn English — they’ll learn English — you need to make sure your child can speak Spanish.
-Barack Obama

Either way, on immigration it is going to take more organization and work then just flipping a lever on election day to have a better system. Unfortunately, from what I have seen I suspect that means that the open borders advocates, who take to the streets, will probably get their way.

#70
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, chris3cube said:

THE RACE also opposes the blood stripe that runs down the trouser leg of the United States Marine Corps uniform.
LA RAZA also wants the first line of The Marine Corp Hymn changed to “From the hall to my bedroomah, to the Shores of Tripoli”.
Lucky for the US Congress that there are organizations like LA RAZA that can do the job Congress dishonors everyday.
Is there any way we might be able to obtain a list from LA RAZA, a list of laws we are allowed to enforce… as long as it passes with their approval of course. Understanding that said list would be subject to change at anytime.
The US Congress should ship a gift of USflag toilet paper to THE RACE, as an actual regulation flag may give them a rash when they wipe.
So LA RAZA allows wrong-RAZA people to speak formally to them?
McCain greatly honors this ONE RACE ONLY group by formally appearing and addressing them.

#71
On July 9th, 2008 at 3:51 pm, DagneyT said:

2. “The Race†has perfected the art of the p.c. shakedown at taxpayer expense, pushing relentlessly to lower home loan standards for Hispanic borrowers, reaping millions in federal “mortgage counseling†grants, seeking special earmarks, and partnering with banks that do business with illegal aliens.

Now we know who to blame for the ridiculous home loan bail-out!

#72
On July 9th, 2008 at 4:26 pm, Irish Rose said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 9:33 am, Michelle Malkin said:

The Ragheadistan comment has been deleted. As for the second comment, I do not agree with it, but I’m not going to censor it.

Thanks for your response, Michelle.

I’m very glad to see that you don’t agree with the sentiment about “Mexicans in general”… however these types of comments do reflect very poorly on your reputation as a Conservative blogger, and that’s a real shame.

Mexicans who have come to this country and followed the correct path to citizenship, are deserving of the same rights and respect afforded to every other U.S. citizen.

#73
On July 9th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, John Ansell said:

Irish Rose, If the illegals stopped coming, the legal Latinos would be treated differently. It’s like those saying that not all Muslims are terrorist but they don’t denounce the actions and weed out the terrorist. So, they are lumped together, right or wrong as it may be.

Bottom line, we need to cut off federal funding to sanctuary cities and states. Deport the Illegals and secure our border.

Irish, would you at least back Jamiel’s Law?

#74
On July 9th, 2008 at 5:18 pm, Leatherneck said:

Illegals aliens deserve nothing, as they broke the law getting here. Also, they broke the law throwing trash on the ground. Let’s see, then there is the illegal alien drunk driver, etc…

IR, how simple are you?

#75
On July 9th, 2008 at 5:27 pm, Irish Rose said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 2:53 pm, right_on said:
IrishRose-

You obviously are very “race†conscious, and proud of your heritage, hence, your blog nom de plume. I would suggest you drop the Irish part of the name, and instead use AmericanRose. You may prevent accusations of your own racist leanings, and PCism, and maybe convince others that you are indeed a true patriot, not a tool.

You’re suggesting that I’m not a true patriot?

My eldest son and firstborn child is a United States Marine. My daughter is going into the Corps. later this year. My father was an officer in the US Navy who transported Marines to and from the beaches at Iwo Jima and came home with a Purple Heart. My uncle was a Pearl Harbor survivor.

I don’t have to earn the right to be called a “patriot” by you or anyone else here, I know what I am.

As for my heritage, I am an Irish American. I’m a citizen of this proud Nation, and I’m also a direct descendent of Brian mac Cennétig . I’ve visited the land of my ancestors, who live in the Gaeltacht and still speak Irish Gaelic (as do I). I’m an Irish musician, singer and dancer and I’m thoroughly immersed in the culture of my ancestors. I myself have walked on the ground where the High Kings of Ireland walked.

I’m a proud Republican and a patriotic American citizen… I’m also intensely proud of my Irish heritage, and I’m not interested in watering my heritage down to make ignorant people like you happy.

So I’ll carry any moniker on these discussion threads that I damned well please. I don’t feel the need to change it or even justify it, for a bonehead like you.

But thanks for the “suggestion”.

#76
On July 9th, 2008 at 5:46 pm, Irish Rose said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 5:11 pm, John Ansell said:

Irish Rose, If the illegals stopped coming, the legal Latinos would be treated differently.

By some, perhaps.

It’s like those saying that not all Muslims are terrorist but they don’t denounce the actions and weed out the terrorist. So, they are lumped together, right or wrong as it may be.

And that makes it OK then?

Bottom line, we need to cut off federal funding to sanctuary cities and states. Deport the Illegals and secure our border.

Irish, would you at least back Jamiel’s Law?

I agree with all of this and have never said otherwise.

My only concern here is the overt racism of many who call themselves “conservatives”. This is NOT conservatism, and those who adopt racist attitudes and spew racist dialogue are not the type of Republicans that the Republican party needs.

Europe is currently having a lot of trouble with white nationalists, overt racists from Vlams Belang and other parties/groups who see the opportunity to hitch a ride on the anti-jihad movement as a way to regain their mainstream legitimacy.

Alarmingly, I see white nationalists in America doing the very same thing and the acceptable targets for them here are both Muslims and Mexicans.

The ideology of racial hatred should be be adamantly opposed by every single person who claims to be a Conservative or a Republican.

#77
On July 9th, 2008 at 7:10 pm, rooster said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 5:46 pm, Irish Rose said:

Alarmingly, I see white nationalists in America doing the very same thing and the acceptable targets for them here are both Muslims and Mexicans.

Irish Rose Thorn, you demonstrate very well that you are a certified moron

#78
On July 9th, 2008 at 7:53 pm, Very Rev. Archimandrite Gregori said:

Dear Ms. Malkin;
I have been watching you when ever you have appeared on the Fox News Channel and I read your blog whenever I get the chance, and being a dyed-in-the-wool conservative myself, I very often post similar articles on my blog:
http://fromthemindofabouna.blogspot.com/
I also sign many faxes and on line petitions to get our elected officials to listen to the voice and will of the people when it comes to securing our borders, ending freebies and handouts to illegals and NOT granting amnesty to the illegals no matter how long they have been in the U.S. I have been doing this for years and the one thing that I have learned over the years, which I wish to bring to your attention, is that we conservatives haven’t won any of our wars in the more than thirty years that I have been a conservative. Oh sure, we may have won a battle or two, but when we least expect it, we get shot down over and over again. We lost the prayer in school war, the abortion rights ban war, we are losing the war on all of the gay rights issues, including “same-sex” marriage, and we are losing the war on illegal immigration and getting our borders secured. In short, we have lost every war in our battle to save our country’s sovereignty, constitutional freedoms and the moral and ethical decency of this country.

It is my educated opinion that we have and are being sold out by the very people we have elected to the Congress of the U.S. and by those we elect as our President, and this has been going on since 1913. With each passing year, it is getting harder and harder to tell the Republicans and the Democrats apart, as they seem to be morphing into one.

I honestly believe that you, myself and every other conservative blogger are just preaching to the choir and spinning our wheels. When do you suppose we will win JUST ONE WAR?

#79
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:36 pm, markvike said:

to all of you, keep up the good conservative fight. God bless, i hope to see you in the next world.

Markvike

#80
On July 9th, 2008 at 8:41 pm, JHSII said:

See Irish Rose, in your little tirade #192 against me, you did project. THis is why you have no credibility. You denigrate the military service of others, you attack Michelle and other Conservatives - and then you post about how you’re so morally superior to everyone else (#75 here in this thread). You remind me of no less than Momma Moonbat herself. Don’t believe that anyone here - and we are Conservatives - believes anything that you post. You voluntarily gave up any credibility you might have had long ago.

#81
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:12 pm, Chief RZ said:

If they are so good, do it in Mexico.

#82
On July 9th, 2008 at 9:29 pm, simcoe said:

Hey, la raza, some folks rose up just before the middle of the last century in central Europe thinking themselves to be something special too. Can you see what happened to them? Can you see?

The Mexican people haven’t bettered themselves appreciably from what the Spanish breeders left behind when they abandoned the isthmus.

Oh, BTW, the Central Europeans weren’t a ‘race’ either. And the Spanish? Nope! They’re just a couple of Central and Southern European nationalities.

Sorry, l r.

The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition | Date: 2008
Many physical anthropologists now believe that, because there is as much genetic variation among the members of any given race as there is between the groups identified as different races, the concept of race is unscientific and unsound and racial categories are arbitrary designations. The term race is inappropriate when applied to national, religious, geographic, linguistic, or ethnic groups, nor can the physical appearances associated with race be equated with mental characteristics, such as intelligence, personality, or character.

#83
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:01 pm, right_on said:

You’re suggesting that I’m not a true patriot?

Nope, I never said that. Your Irish temper got the best of you, I’m afraid. I have never, nor would I ever, call any pro-American, unpatriotic, regardless of their heritage. I myself come from a long line of warriors, and poets. And of that, I am very proud. I am an American of Polish, Irish, Scottish, and English descent, and I find no useful reason to hyphenate my heritage. I am an American first, and foremost. I speak several languages that I learned on my own, albeit, some not as fluently as I would like. I would like to learn more.

I didn’t learn how to play a musical instrument, as I had better things to do with my time, most of which was not idle. My interests leaned towards the ballistic arts, an area in which I excelled. I have created ballistic loads that perform sub-minute angles of accuracy, which is music to the ears of some.

I served in the Marines, and, among a plethora of other occupations, been a Police Officer. I have sworn to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and the innocent. I have place my life at risk for people I have never met, and have never asked for anything in return, save sane and trustworthy leadership of my elected officials.

One of my daughters served in the Army in the Korean theater, just miles from the DMZ. Hopefully, my other girls will not have to serve in the armed forces.

Ignorance? I’m sorry that you felt compelled to call me ignorant…some times, educated people, including apparently you, have a difficult time comprehending nuance. Name-calling, like booby-traping, is the fodder of the weak, and those in retreat. Pity.

If you had taken the time and taken a breath, you would have understood my “suggestion” was not a dig at you nor your heritage, but an attempt to show how different we are than our political opposites, who seem compelled to validate their heritage, and take umbrage at anything they persieve as an insult.

This discussion was about La Raza, you know, the Mexicans who love their heritage so much, that they want to force it down our throats. They don’t love America. They refer to themselves as Latinos first? Hence, my point.

You feel so strongly about the heritage (you inherited, not earned) that you would attack me for suggesting that putting “America” before your “proud Irish” background would alleviate some grief you catch on this blog?

If I were ignorant, I would be offended, but I instead, consider the source.

#84
On July 9th, 2008 at 10:33 pm, Bulldogger said:

Living in Southern California gives one a unique look into what the invasion is doing to our country. Assimilate to the South American culture or leave that is the choice you will soon have. I really wonder how Irish Rose will feel when the non tolerant South American “culture” begins to take over the neighborhood where Irish Rose resides? Get ready to learn Spanish, raise chickens in your back yard and fly a Mexican Flag Irish that is the reward you so justly deserve!

#85
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:05 am, AlturaCt said:

Europe is currently having a lot of trouble with white nationalists, overt racists from Vlams Belang and other parties/groups who see the opportunity to hitch a ride on the anti-jihad movement as a way to regain their mainstream legitimacy.

Alarmingly, I see white nationalists in America doing the very same thing and the acceptable targets for them here are both Muslims and Mexicans.

Another holier then thou individual who has their head firmly where the sun is deficient.

Groups like Vlaams Belang are some of the few actually taking a righteous stand to protect there homes, nation and people from the immigration/multicultural morass the EU is/has become. People like you would rather lay supine and pretend that groups like LaRaza, MEChA, LULAC, CAIR et al are just bridge clubs and race mean nothing to them or the multitudes that support not only them but the invaders as well. They use race as a weapon. They work as a race/group and they stick together as a race/group and you would just let them walk all over you, your family and our country then you have some nerve coming here and spouting this hypocritical crap. If standing up to the racist pricks who intend to take over and destroy what was passed down to us makes me a “racist” then I wear it proudly and you can go to hell.

#86
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:18 am, Christian Soldier said:

Just checked out StormFront-read a couple of the homeschool takes…found no-thing that was racist…thanks for the tip…

Now - back to our two candidates running for President…and extolling the “virtues” of LaRaza>>>>>>>

#87
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:37 am, Christian Soldier said:

# 78- With each passing year, it is getting harder and harder to tell the Republicans and the Democrats apart, as they seem to be morphing into one

Your entire piece is “right-on”…I cut the statement (above) from it because it is a clear point as to the reason we are on the slippery slide…

LOTE>>>AGAIN>>>anyone!!!!!?

#88
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:50 am, Irish Rose said:

Groups like Vlaams Belang are some of the few actually taking a righteous stand to protect there homes, nation and people from the immigration/multicultural morass the EU is/has become.

A VB apologist… lovely.
Does Michelle know that you’re here?


Vlams Belang and the Sweden Democrats

Vlams Belang and the White Supremacist Cesspool

Robert Spencer on the Eurofascists

#89
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:51 am, Irish Rose said:

On July 10th, 2008 at 12:18 am, Christian Soldier said:

Just checked out StormFront…found no-thing that was racist

Wow.

#90
On July 10th, 2008 at 1:05 am, Christian Soldier said:

Rose #89–you cropped my statement– Naughty–and unethical>>>

so-to refresh:

CS said–Just checked out StormFront-read a couple of the homeschool takes…found no-thing that was racist…thanks for the tip…

#91
On July 10th, 2008 at 2:07 am, stoptheinvasion said:

thank you Michelle for shining such a strong bright light on this band of filth that our elected traitors cower to and kneel before.

La Raza and their ilk are digusting racist swine but the craven scum that we call US elected officials that aid and abet this awful group and their illegal alien, border-crashing, law-ignoring, lawsuit-filing, school-ruining, hospital-bankrupting, reconquista-spreading, state-budget-busting benefactors are that much worse for actively collaborating with and assisting their invasion.

it’s so upside down and insane. and we must at all costs stop it.

#92
On July 10th, 2008 at 3:13 am, Bill Grant said:

On July 9th, 2008 at 8:41 pm, JHSII said:

See Irish Rose, in your little tirade #192 against me, you did project

Boy I regret teaching you that word.

#93
On July 10th, 2008 at 7:08 am, JHSII said:

Bill Grant trolled in and lied #92

You didn’t teach me anything, Bill, except that you’re a liar and a troll. All you’re doing now is continuing to confirm it.

#94
On July 10th, 2008 at 7:24 am, AlturaCt said:

Does Michelle know that you’re here?

Mommy, Mommy.

I don’t know Michelle personally but I have read plenty of her stuff and one thing I do know is that she at least understands that all of these “race” groups are nothing but race hustlers who are being aided by most of the power structure to our own peril and demise. They do exactly what we in a supposed “colorblind” society are taught we are not supposed to do. That the same rules don’t apply to everyone and most importantly she also understands what makes America great. What made America great and what unites us and gives us the backbone we have or at least used to have.

IR to you and Mr Johnson the only real issue is the “Muslim extremist” and not the massive invading hoards who are just as detrimental and in fact even more so as they wholesale change cultures and displace populations with no attempt to adopt and for the most part insist we must accommodate them. You insist there is a NAZI around every corner. That everyone who takes a stand wants to exterminate millions of people. Then blatantly ignore the detrimental and genocidal effect of these massive unabated invasions. At least they are standing up. At least they act like they are a people. At least they are not intimidated to protect themselves. At least they realize what they are losing. At least they realize they in fact do have their own culture and nation. They are not some damn universal experiment that protects everyone’s culture and race except for that of their own.

#95
On July 10th, 2008 at 8:01 am, Irish Rose said:

I continue to be very concerned about what I’m reading here at MM, and I hope that Michelle is as well.

#96
On July 10th, 2008 at 8:13 am, JHSII said:

I too am concerned about what is happening here on Michelle’s website - with certain people here calling it a site for hate speech, and those same people attacking Conservatives.

What can be done about it, I wonder???? :roll:

#97
On July 10th, 2008 at 8:29 am, Irish Rose said:

Jettisoning needy, emotionally immature provocateurs like you who bring absolutely nothing to the debate except to show up at the end of every single discussion thread to flame and provoke, stage yet another narcissistic display of “look at me!” behaviors, rally a group of “supporters”, and shut down any further conversation would be very helpful.

You make Michelle look like an idiot because you bring the level of discourse down to the grade school level the moment that you show up, JHS… but you just can’t help yourself, can you?

#98
On July 10th, 2008 at 8:42 am, JHSII said:

Why do you think I was talking about you, Irish Rose? Guilty conscience perhaps?

You might try a little less projecting. It would do you - and the rest of us too - at least a small amount of good.

#99
On July 10th, 2008 at 8:55 am, Irish Rose said:

Michelle, I don’t disagree with you about illegal immigration. Quite the contrary, in fact.

But your posts about illegal immigration and La Raza are bringing a lot of racist, supremacist wierdos out of the woodwork and I beg you to start monitoring your comments a little more closely.

I know that you can’t be here 24/7 but disclaimer aside, these comments really do reflect poorly on you as the owner of this blog, as they would any blog or site administrator.

If you don’t support the notion of “hating Mexicans in general” then why allow those who do have a problem with “hating Mexicans in general” to post racist, bigoted comments on your blog or support those who do?

You’re a highly respected Conservative blogger; if you’re interested in protecting and promoting your brand, these are the type of comments that are going to rob you of your credibility. You’re going to be labeled a ‘bigot’ whether you agree with these people or not.

I’m a longtime reader and I enjoy coming here to read your usually excellent commentary. I implore you to consider if this is really the direction that you really want this blog to go.

I for one am not interested in rubbing shoulders with racist bigots. There are other Conservative blogs out there and I’ll go elsewhere, if this is the direction that you’re going to take here at MM.

Respectfully, IR

#100
On July 10th, 2008 at 9:07 am, JHSII said:

I for one am not interested in rubbing shoulders with racist bigots. There are other Conservative blogs out there and I’ll go elsewhere, if this is the direction that you’re going to take here at MM.

and here Irish Rose calls Michelle Malkin and the Conservatives who post here “racist bigots”. Whoa.
This comes just after a little diatribe against me accusing me of doing the very things she herself does in the very next post.

I’m impressed.

/not

#101
On July 10th, 2008 at 9:13 am, Irish Rose said:

AlturaCt said:

…. all of these “race†groups are nothing but race hustlers who are being aided by most of the power structure to our own peril and demise.

A North American Union conspiracy theorist, I presume?

#102
On July 10th, 2008 at 9:15 am, AlturaCt said:

You’re a highly respected Conservative blogger; if you’re interested in protecting and promoting your brand, these are the type of comments that are going to rob you of your credibility. You’re going to be labeled a ‘bigot’ whether you agree with these people or not.

Since you posted this publicly it obviously is not intended for just MM. The only one losing “credibility” is you IR. When the Mexicans of the “hating Mexicans in general” start standing up against the invasion and groups like LaRaza then we may find common ground but you are the exact kind of person that “haters” and “racist” like LaRaza love because they know they can push you in a corner and make you continually back up with calling you names all the while promoting their one way racism, culture, RACE, perspective and agenda.

Respectfully, AlturaCt.

#103
On July 10th, 2008 at 9:16 am, Irish Rose said:

For the love of God Michelle, would you PLEASE get rid of this idiot?

Yeesh, enough already!

#104
On July 10th, 2008 at 10:16 am, Irish Rose said:

On July 10th, 2008 at 9:15 am, AlturaCt said:

When the Mexicans of the “hating Mexicans in general†start standing up against the invasion and groups like LaRaza then we may find common ground

A convenient excuse, but racism is racism and it doesn’t fly. I despise people who use this arguement as a platform for their bigotry.

you are the exact kind of person that “haters†and “racist†like LaRaza love because they know they can push you in a corner and make you continually back up with calling you names

Actually no, I’m just a person who believes that any man or woman from Mexico who comes to this country legally and follows the correct path to citizenship is deserving of respect from people like you.

As I’ve stated before and often, I think we have a real problem with illegal immigration in this country and we need to work harder to resolve it.

But I despise the so-called “Christian” conservatives who hate Muslims, Asians and Mexicans simply because they are Muslims, Asians and Mexicans and jump on board the “immigration” train to spread lies, hatred, bigotry and fear.

Deal with the illegals, yes… it must be done.

But open hatred for those who are legal citizens of this great Nation simply because they come from Mexico or the Middle East or somewhere else, is WRONG and it should have no place in Conservative discourse.

This is America. Do we welcome those who come to this country legally and follow the correct path to citizenship, or don’t we?

On the issue of immigration, far too many CINO’s practice a level of hypocrisy that is nothing less than stunning.

#105
On July 10th, 2008 at 10:47 am, Irish Rose said:

Some here might wonder why I’m so sensitive on the issue of immigration.

Check out “Gangs of New York”, and then get back to me.

This guy has also seen the film… and on the issue of immigration, he’s a Christian conservative who “gets it”.

He provides a reality check that frankly, a lot of CINO’s here could really use.

#106
On July 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am, JHSII said:

There’s no “lies, hatred, bigotry and fear” from Conservatives. These are all descriptions of the left.

Seeing as how you think we’re all a bunch of intolerant haters, Irish Rose, why do you stick around?

#107
On July 10th, 2008 at 11:19 am, Irish Rose said:

On July 10th, 2008 at 11:03 am, JHSII said:

There’s no “lies, hatred, bigotry and fear†from Conservatives. These are all descriptions of the left.

You just keep on spinning that bit, JHS. It might just prevent intelligent conservatives from actually taking a closer look at what actually goes on in the name of “conservatism”.

Seeing as how you think we’re all a bunch of intolerant haters, Irish Rose

Of course I never said that.

But don’t let it stop you from banking on the ignorance of some of the more apathetic participants here to post lies like this one.

Your whole world revolves around discrediting people who disagree with your position using whatever means necessary, and you lie constantly to do so.

You need help, seriously.

#108
On July 10th, 2008 at 11:33 am, JHSII said:

You keep on projecting Irish Rose. Don’t let threats of intelligent conversation get in your way!

:roll:

#109
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:31 pm, Irish Rose said:

I really don’t mind taking the heat on this issue alone.

But I find it to be both a shame and a disgrace that I’m seemingly the only one here who believes that racism and bigotry have no place in Conservative discourse, and cares enough about right and wrong to come forward and say so.

#110
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, JHSII said:

There is no racism or bigotry in Conservative discourse. I suppose though, if you’re seeing what you want to see rather than what is actually there, that you can see racism and bigotry anywhere you look.

#111
On July 10th, 2008 at 12:49 pm, Irish Rose said:

On July 10th, 2008 at 12:45 pm, JHSII said:

There is no racism or bigotry in Conservative discourse. I suppose though, if you’re seeing what you want to see rather than what is actually there, that you can see racism and bigotry anywhere you look.

So tell me JHS, what exactly do you see in #10?

#112
On July 10th, 2008 at 1:05 pm, Weary Citizen said:

On July 10th, 2008 at 8:01 am, Irish Rose said:

Then leave. What an *ss you are. You disagree with 90% of all posters here who love MM. Then whine to her about “concerned”. Next thing “comprehensive” and “tolerance” and “multiculutral” will be flowing from you.

AlturaCT, you are right on about the European conservative groups VB, etc. irish rose links a bunch of liberal op ed pices from liberal rags to show how “racist” they are. I too beleive they are seeing the writing on the wall and trying to stop it before it is too late. They simply don’t want the immigrants coming into their countries and demanding teh natives change their 1000 year old culture to fit the immigrants. They, like me, also beleive we have too many immigrants and it is changing the dynamics of the society (a society that has functioned very well for centuries). Europe like us no longer requires the immigrants to be of value to the society. Merely, that thye are immigrants.

#113
On July 10th, 2008 at 1:41 pm, JHSII said:

In post #10 I see Irish Rose complaining that this is becoming a hate blog now. I see Irish Rose attacking posters here as “overtly racist”. I see Irish Rose attacking Michelle Malkin over “journalistic integrity” - even though Irish Rose can’t read the disclaimer at the top of every comments section that says:

Please don’t assume that I agree with or endorse any particular comment just because I let it stand.

Finally I see Irish Rose telling Michelle Malkin how to run her own website.

In short, I see what’s actually there, not just what I want to see.

#114
On July 10th, 2008 at 2:47 pm, Bill Grant said:

On July 10th, 2008 at 7:08 am, JHSII sniveled and whined:

“You didn’t teach me anything,â€

In the way that you can “teach” a parrot, sure. Again, want to try for something more difficult? Give this a go:

“Polly wanna cracker?â€

Good boy…

“except that you’re a liar and a troll.“

Where have I lied? Isn’t it a bit infantile to call someone a liar when you just don’t want to hear what they have to say? Isn’t that what a big crybaby would do?

“Finally I see Irish Rose telling Michelle Malkin how to run her own website.â€

You got something on your nose their kiddo. You so crave acceptance, don’t you?

#115
On July 10th, 2008 at 3:28 pm, JHSII said:

SOP for Bill Grant: Lies, trolling, name-calling, and attacks on Conservatives.

When you’re willing to discuss anything in a mature, intelligent manner then we can actually have a conversation.

#116
On July 10th, 2008 at 4:10 pm, Irish Rose said:

White Nationalism is a disease, a malignant cancer.

I could give you a dozen examples of Vlaams Belang being directly linked with European neonazi fascists, but you already have your mind made up about it so why bother?

If you’re open to factual evidence however, then google LGF Vlaams Belang. Charles Johnson has been tireless in exposing European neonazi fascists for what they are, and uncovering their deception and connections with Vlaams Belang and the BNP. Europe has a huge problem that has absolutely <