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More on What Makes Troopergate So Dangerous

Sat Oct 11, 2008 at 03:05:07 PM PDT

A month ago, we were asking What Makes Troopergate So Dangerous and noting that there was a pronounced half-assed Cheneyist quality to Sarah Palin's approach to "governance."

The release of the Branchflower report on Troopergate lays it all bare, and Palin's response to it makes the case against electing her:

"If you read the report, you will see that there was nothing unlawful or unethical about replacing a cabinet member," Palin said as boarded her campaign bus in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. "You got to read the report."

But as the very next sentence of the CNN report cited above says:

Palin violated state ethics law by trying to get her former brother-in-law fired from the state police, a state investigator's report for the bipartisan Legislative Council concluded Friday.

Palin says there was nothing unlawful or unethical, just read the report. And the report says? It was unlawful and unethical.

That, under normal circumstances, would tell you all you need to know: the Republican Vice Presidential candidate is a certifiable loon, dangerously disconnected from reality.

But wait, there's more!

Even if you had some reason to grant her this fantasy that she'd done nothing illegal -- and it's difficult to do when Branchflower cites the very section of the Alaska code she violated -- this would still go to the very essence of what makes something that is not by itself illegal nonetheless an abuse of power.

The McCain camp's spin here is that since the report makes no recommendation that criminal charges be leveled, it's therefore a case of "no harm, no foul."

But abuse of power is very real, even though sometimes it's not by itself a violation of the law (notwithstanding the fact that, again, in this case it actually is). It's the position of the people the governor and her husband pressured as subordinates that creates the problem here. Anybody else calling the Commissioner of the Department of Public Safety this many times after being told repeatedly that such contacts are illegal, create liability, and must cease -- and having the relevant law saying so read to them -- just gets hung up on. But there was no stopping the obsessive, vindictive Palins, even as Commissioner Monegan warned them explicitly that this could eventually create an enormous political problem for them. Instead, the Palins preferred and indeed insisted on delivering the message behind Monegan's dismissal: refuse to do this governor (and her husband) illegal favors and you will be fired too.

Did she have the legal authority to fire Monegan for no reason? Yes. Did she have the legal authority to do so for personal gain? No.

That is what abuse of power is. Doing it anyway.

Consider now how all of this squares with the fact that Sarah Palin in her debate with Joe Biden said she thought the power of the vice presidency could be increased even beyond where Darth Cheney already has brought it.

Add to that the fact that Palin now stands before the press and public, and lies squarely to our faces that the report doesn't say what it says in black and white. This is perhaps no great feat for her, given that she continues to this day to insist she didn't support the Bridge to Nowhere, despite the fact that that lie has become a national joke.

What might this mean, that a McCain/Palin administration would seek to increase her powers as Vice President beyond Cheney's already insane overreaching, and that at the same time she insists that her plain violation of the law was no violation at all?

Yes.

That's what you get when you hand a ham-fisted idiot the keys to the city state country, folks.

Elect these nutbars, and Todd Palin will be renditioning people who cut him off in traffic.

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It won't stop. This is how they do things.

Fri Oct 10, 2008 at 03:13:02 PM PDT

It's clearly the right thing to do to demand that John McCain and Sarah Palin's sick incitements to domestic terrorism must stop.

But it's not going to. This is how they do things. When Republicans are in power, as they are now, they use the mechanisms of government to do their political violence to the constitutional order, as they've done by "normalizing" the existence of the surveillance state, of secret government, and even of nationalization of entire economic sectors.

It's when Republicans fall out of power, or fear falling out of power, that the violence they do to what used to be our system of government threatens to turn physical. And it's the fear of being overwhelmingly rejected at the ballot box that's bringing it out in them now.

It's no coincidence that the traditional media is noticing a disturbing uptick in violent rhetoric at McCain/Palin events, both inside and out, and from both the candidates and the crowds. It had to happen. Sarah Palin's entire political career is steeped in the same wingnut "black helicopter" militia insanity that manifested itself in the Oklahoma City massacre and other infamous explosions of blood-spattered, far-right paranoia like Ruby Ridge and Waco. Wading in up to their hips right at the peak of it all, though admittedly at the far-flung fringes of it all, were Sarah Palin and the man whose bizarre personal vendettas she lives to prosecute: Todd Palin.

Unsurprisingly -- and as predicted -- as the rhetoric on stage heats up, and Republican event turnout grows in the wake of the nomination of a militia/far-right/separatist associated vice presidential candidate, the crowd grows increasingly ugly, inching ever-closer to the threat of violence:

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Where did we think the creepy "New World Order" freaks from the 1990s went to? Did we think they disappeared? Grew up? Joined Blackwater? What?

No, they clammed up and toed the line for George W. Bush, as he whipped them into a pants-wetting frenzy over terrorism. But their convenient conversion into pro-government forces was cramping their style, and they're now champing at the bit to restart their cottage industries, distributing their unhinged conspiracy theory videos, pro-assassination t-shirts, etc., all the while throwing up their hands and proclaiming their "innocence" with regard to the strange and mysterious resurgence of violence in domestic political affairs.

The violent exhortations are even seeping down-ticket, as TPM notes in citing an AP report of crowd reaction at a debate between Georgia Senate candidates Saxby Chambliss (R) and Jim Martin (D):

Thursday's debate took place in front of a highly partisan crowd in the GOP stronghold of Middle Georgia.

Chambliss supporters waved "Saxby" signs and offered up a sustained "boos" when Martin mentioned Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

"Bomb Obama," one woman hollered.

At this point, the degenerate Republican campaign can't be about winning anymore. The numbers just aren't there. But they can work to sow seeds of feverish paranoia in the minds of (sometimes rather heavily armed) crazies, setting up a Second Golden Age of Wingnuttery, such that the next four to eight years are once again marked by dark whispers (and more) that the Clintons Obamas are murderers terrorists.

Hate speech + militia entanglements + mob mentality. What a formula.

We already knew Separatist Sarah Palin's America-hating tendencies. But who knew Saint Johnny McCain wanted to go out like this?

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Hallelujah! VoteVets Body Armor Ad Back on the Air.

Wed Oct 08, 2008 at 10:05:01 AM PDT

Back in August, we all scratched our heads wondering why the stunningly effective ads from the 2006 cycle weren't on the air this year. That ad had helped take out top Republican targets like George Allen, Rick Santorum and Conrad Burns.

Well, it's back, in slightly revised form, targeting GOP laggard Liddy Dole in North Carolina:

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They're going in pretty heavy, too. A $200,000 buy in NC, to air the ads in the Greenville and Wilmington markets. And that's not all. Check out this one, backed by a $350,000 buy in Virginia:

Good to have these guys back on the air.

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Hmm, gee. What a surprise.

Tue Oct 07, 2008 at 12:10:19 PM PDT

NYT:

Under a proposal being discussed with the Treasury Department, the Fed could buy vast amounts of the unsecured short-term debt that companies rely on to finance their day-to-day activities, according to officials familiar with the discussions. If this were to happen, the central bank would come closer than ever to lending directly to businesses.

While the move would put more taxpayer dollars at risk, it underscores the growing sense of urgency felt by policy makers in a climate where lending has virtually dried up.

unsecured debt

A debt that is not tied to any item of property. A creditor doesn't have the right to grab property to satisfy the debt if you default. The creditor's only remedy is to sue you and get a judgment. Compare secured debt.

And more taxpayer dollars at risk? Okeydoke! I'll take two!

Back to the Times:

The market for that kind of debt has all but shut down in the last week, with many major corporations unable to borrow for longer than a day at a time, as banks become more fearful of giving out cash. The volume of such debt totaled about $1.6 trillion as of Oct. 1, down 11 percent from three weeks earlier.

But wait a minute. $1.6 trillion? Uh-oh. Does that mean...?

[T]he possibility of propping up the vast market for commercial paper could represent an undertaking even broader than the Treasury Department’s plan to buy as much as $700 billion in mortgage-backed securities.

Oh, God. It does, doesn't it?

How the hell...?

To pay for its burgeoning responsibilities, the Fed has no choice but to keep printing more money.

Print more money? But doesn't that mean there'll be too much in circulation, and it'll therefore be worthless?

To prevent that flood of new money from reducing the central bank’s overnight interest rate to zero, the Fed also announced on Monday that it would start paying interest on the excess reserves that banks keep on deposit at the Fed.

Paying interest on reserves allows the central bank to set a floor on interest rates and retain at least some control over monetary policy.

So... we're going to pay the banks to buy their unsecured debt for which there's no collateral and no real recourse for recovery, and we're going to finance these payments by... borrowing money from the banks.

I feel great about this plan.

I'm no economist, though. Your comments?

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Your "vigorous oversight." A day late and $700 billion short?

Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 01:19:18 PM PDT

CBS:

Days from becoming the largest bankruptcy in U.S. history, Lehman Brothers steered millions to departing executives even while pleading for a federal rescue, Congress was told Monday.

"Congress" was told Monday?

"Congress" is fucking gone, dude.

"Congress" handed out the $700 billion and skipped town on Friday, leaving a skeleton crew in place to find this shit out on Monday.

Yes, there are a few hearings going on in the House Government Oversight Committee in the next few weeks, despite the fact that the House is adjourned until next January. But to what end, exactly? Better something than nothing, to be sure, but Congress can't legislate on the issue without reconvening. And there are no plans to do that.

In fact, Congress can't even be 100% sure anyone will show up for their "vigorous oversight" without the ability to subpoena witnesses and make it stick, because the fully body has to be there to vote contempt (See also: Troopergate). Not that having the full body there to vote contempt would make a difference, of course. It hasn't in the cases of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten, both of whom are now a year and a half overdue for their appearances before the Judiciary Committee.

The only good news in this is that the government didn't bail out Lehman, so in the end, our tax dollars didn't -- in this case -- go to paying executive bonuses.

So... that settles the question of what's happening in that part of the world that didn't get our $700 billion.

Jury's still out on the part that did.

You can argue all you want about the propriety of the bailout, but don't tell me it's OK to pass it because there'll be "vigorous oversight" and then adjourn Congress for three months.

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Bailout Oversight

Mon Oct 06, 2008 at 09:30:17 AM PDT

Committee on Oversight and Government Reform:

Committee to Hold Hearing on Causes and Effects of the Lehman Brothers Bankruptcy
The Committee is holding a hearing to examine the regulatory mistakes and financial excesses that led to the bankruptcy filing by Lehman Brothers. The hearing will be held at 10:00 a.m. on October 6, 2008, in Rayburn House Office Building room 2154.

Click here for live video of the hearing.

The following witnesses have been invited to testify:

Dr. Luigi Zingales, Professor of Finance, University of Chicago

Dr. Robert F. Wescott, President, Keybridge Research LLC

Nell Minow, Chairman of the Board and Editor, The Corporate Library

Gregory W. Smith, General Counsel, Colorado Public Employees’ Retirement Association

Peter J. Wallison, Arthur F. Burns Fellow in Financial Policy Studies, American Enterprise Institute

Richard S. Fuld, Jr., Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Lehman Brothers Holdings

Documents and Links
Chairman Waxman's Opening Statement (164 KB)
Supporting Documents for Chairman Waxman's Opening Statement (1 MB)
Oral Testimony of Luigi Zingales (38 KB)
Written Testimony of Liugi Zingales (131 KB)
Testimony of Robert F. Wescott (163 KB)
Testimony of Nell Minow (32 KB)
Testimony of Gregory Smith (700 KB)
Testimony of Peter Wallison (94 KB)

Today begins the parade of after-the-fact oversight of the financial markets bailout bill passed last week.

The problem from a practical perspective is that with the Congress adjourned until next January, the hearings can go on, but they can't actually do anything with any of the information they glean from them without reconvening. They can't legislate based on what they learn, and they certainly can't enforce any subpoenas, even when they are in session. So anyone who doesn't feel like showing up can just decide not to, I guess. See also: Troopergate.

So they're pretty much for show. Might as well watch the show, though. After all, you're paying for it.

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House Bailout, Take 2: The Vote

Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 09:39:15 AM PDT

The vote approaches. I count nine switchers moving to "Hafta," and one moving to "Nuh-uh." That would bring the vote to 212 in favor. They'll need another half dozen or so to pass it, but the trend is pretty clear. Not too many people are moving away from the bill.

So far, I've got 38 Ds in favor, 7 opposed. 16-13 among Rs. If that's reflective of where the Republicans are, it looks like they'll deliver the bare minimum number of votes required of them to pass this.

Again, there's no reason to believe that the breakdown of speakers is broadly indicative of where the entire Democratic and Republican caucuses are, but if that were the case, we'd be looking at about 195 Democratic votes in favor. I can't believe, though, that the Republicans will come up with over 100 votes, which is what the numbers indicated by the speakers would come out to. 195 Dems would be on the high side, too, after getting only 140 on Monday.

With seven Dem "no" votes from Monday showing up to say no again today, and five former Dem "no" votes switching, that'd translate to about 39 Dem votes switching. Add those to the 140 from Monday and you're nearly at 180. But I'm guessing that the the Dem "no" votes mostly stayed away from the floor today.

12:56 p.m. EDT. Pelosi takes the floor, and the Republicans take out their hankies and prepare to rend their garments and wail.

Note the special courtesy. Pelosi was yielded one minute. Five have elapsed. Boehner got it on Monday, too. I didn't notice how much time he was yielded today, though. I went back and looked. He was yielded one minute, too. And also took about five. Just for the record.

Here's one I missed from earlier in the debate, thanks to Jon DeVore at Horse's Ass:

A wee bit ago on C-SPAN
by Jon DeVore, 10/03/2008, 9:17 AM

Rep. Steven C. LaTourette, R-Ohio, angrily denouncing the Drunken Sailor Bailout Act of 2008 (my words, not his) by mentioning, among other things, that the bill provides a rum tax payment to Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands in the amount of about $192 million over ten years:

   At least we have the pirate vote.

So that would not be an "aye" I’m guessing.

1:08 p.m. EDT. And the vote is on.

As the 15 minutes allotted for the vote expires, the tally is 226-143 in favor. The bill passes, and applause and whistles go up on the floor.

144 Dems vote yea, 52 nay. 82 Rs vote yea, 91 nay.

65 votes still outstanding -- 39 D and 26 R.

1:24 p.m. EDT. The yea votes pass 250, but voting is still open.

Final totals:

263-171
D 172-63
R 91-108

Interestingly, the extrapolation from the floor speeches wasn't all that far off. Skewed a bit in favor of the leadership positions, but that's to be expected.

FINAL UPDATE (I think): Now on to an unemployment benefits extension bill. How many Republican Members who voted for the bailout, saying it was about Main Street and not Wall Street, will now vote against this?

ONE MORE UPDATE: The roll call on the vote. Sole "Team I Dunno" member Sheila Jackson Lee voted yes.

Here's our running tally so far:

Team Hafta
Jim Wilson (R-SC) -- I think. Cryptic "one minute" to start the day.
Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
Steve Cohen (D-TN)
Jim McGovern (D-MA)
Hilda Solis (D-CA)
Doris Matsui (D-CA)
Phil Hare (D-IL)
Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Louise Slaughter (D-NY)
Charlie Rangel (D-NY)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Howard Coble (R-NC)
Richard Neal (D-MA)
Dave Camp (R-MI)
John Tanner (D-TN) -- but with strong objections to the lack of offsets
Zach Wamp (R-TN)
John Lewis (D-GA)
Kevin Brady (R-TX)
Ron Kind (D-WI)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Jim McCrery (R-LA)
Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Barney Frank (D-MA)
Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Jim Moran (D-VA)
Tom Cole (R-OK)
Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Jim Marshall (D-GA)
Judy Biggert (R-IL)
David Scott (D-GA)
Danny Davis (D-IL)
John Dingell (D-MI) -- love how he just blows by the procedural pronouncements of the chair and delivers his remarks right over them
Gary Miller (R-CA)
Ed Perlmutter (D-CO) -- he doesn't actually say so, but he was a yes on Monday, and you don't enter into a colloquy with Barney Frank if you're not in agreement with him. You just don't.
Chris Shays (R-CT)
Paul Kanjorski (D-PA)
Paul Ryan (R-WI)
David Obey (D-WI)
Jerry Nadler (D-NY)
Donna Edwards (D-MD)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX)
Gwen Moore (D-WI)
Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Dan Lungren (R-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA) -- who says that Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) is joining her by associating himself with her remarks -- both, then, are switching.
Jim Clyburn (D-SC)
Chip Pickering (R-MS) -- CSPAN says he voted no on Monday, but that's not what the Clerk's office says. They have him as an aye vote.
Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
John Spratt (D-SC)
Steny Hoyer (D-MD)
John Boehner (R-OH)
Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)

Team Nuh-Uh
Virginia Foxx (R-NC)
Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Phil Gingrey (R-GA)
Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Tom Latham (R-IA)
Joe Barton (R-TX)
Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
Mike Pence (R-IN)
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Peter DeFazio (D-OR)
Steve LaTourette (R-OH) -- sees the futility of the tranching
David Dreier (R-CA)
Pete Stark (D-CA)
Devin Nunes (R-CA) -- that is one seriously obscure Member
Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Jeb Hensarling (R-TX)
Scott Garrett (R-NJ)
Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL)
Ron Paul (R-TX)

Team I Dunno
Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) -- supporting the rule

Team Won't Say Out Loud
Jim McCrery (R-LA) -- voted for the Monday version, though, so probably a Hafta

Switchers
Howard Coble (R-NC)
Zach Wamp (R-TN)
John Lewis (D-GA)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Judy Biggert (R-IL)
David Scott (D-GA)
David Dreier (R-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL)

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House Bailout, Take 2

Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 08:22:33 AM PDT

(Bumped.)

Debate on the rule for Bailout v. 1.1 started in the 9 o'clock hour this morning, with Members taking sides on the underlying bill during the rule debate as is often the case.

The battle lines are forming, and the question will be whether the Senate's additions attract more supporters (who will be indistinguishable from Members who opposed the first version but got nervous about the markets afterward) than they lose by grafting on unpaid-for tax breaks.

Louise Slaughter recognizes the procedural deja vu:

Madam Speaker, we have found ourselves again at a juncture where we've found ourselves many times in these last two years, at the mercy of the Senate. We have a bill that they passed, and unfortunately if we were to open it again, we'd probably be here for another two years trying to do this bill, because I think both sides have many issues that they would prefer to see here. But nonetheless, we understand the emergency that we are under, what it is we have to do.

The first vote of the day is on ordering the previous question, basically asking whether or not they're going to go ahead and vote on the rule. Defeating the previous question is a real rarity, and if it happens, the majority pretty much loses control of the ability to shape debate for the day, because they can't even get to a vote on the rule governing how debate will take place.

For that reason, the voting usually hews very closely to party lines, much moreso than will the vote on the underlying bill, or possibly even the rule for the bill.

10:30 a.m. EDT. Previous Question Ordered, 235-190. Ds break 216-14, Rs break 19-176, with 5 Ds and 4 Rs not voting.

10:39 a.m. EDT Rule passes, 223-205. Ds break 203-29 and Rs 20-176, with 3 non-voters on either side.

10:42 a.m. EDT
Debate on the bill itself gets underway. There will be 90 minutes of debate, with 60 minutes split in half and controlled by the Chair and Ranking Member of the Financial Services Committee (Barney Frank and Spencer Bachus) and 30 minutes split between the Chair and Ranking Member of Ways & Means (Charlie Rangel and Jim McCrery).

11:00 a.m. EDT. Our first identified switcher, Rep. Howard Coble (R-NC).

11:12 a.m. EDT. Second switcher, Zach Wamp (R-TN):

Monday I cast a blue collar vote for the American people, shook the foundations of Wall Street, demanding more accountability. But today I'm going to cast a red, white and blue collar vote with my hand over my heart for this country!

Oh my God, that's the cheesiest thing I've ever heard.

11:14 a.m. EDT.
First identified D switcher, John Lewis (D-GA).

11:20 a.m. EDT. Bill Pascrell (D-NJ) switches. Interesting that he was a no to begin with. I wonder if he was the closest Member geographically to the NYC financial centers to have voted no.

11:24 a.m. EDT. McCrery say out loud -- Hafta.

11:25 a.m. EDT. The Ways & Means Committee's time on the bill is expired. On to the 60 remaining minutes controlled by the Financial Services Committee.

11:29 a.m. EDT. Gresham Barrett (R-SC) switches.

11:40 a.m. EDT. Judy Biggert (R-IL) switches.

11:45 a.m. EDT. David Scott (D-GA) switches. I haven't seen them lose any votes yet. I've had it pointed out to me that Dreier's "nuh-uh" today is actually a switch from his Monday "hafta" vote.

12:03 p.m. EDT. David Obey (D-WI), following Paul Ryan's (R-WI) speech in support of the bill:

Madam Speaker, I agree with my colleague from Wisconsin about once a year. And this is that occasion.


12:07 p.m. EDT.
Jerry Nadler knows who's watching:

Madam Speaker, I voted against the Iraq War Resolution, the PATRIOT Act, the FISA Act amendments, and I led the opposition to the bankruptcy bill a few years ago. In each case, because I thought we were being railroaded into unwise actions through the use of fear tactics. But I do not believe that to be the case now. Now we face a very real crisis.

12:28 p.m. EDT. Barbara Lee (D-CA) and Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) switch.

Here's our running tally so far:

Team Hafta
Jim Wilson (R-SC) -- I think. Cryptic "one minute" to start the day.
Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
Rahm Emanuel (D-IL)
Steve Cohen (D-TN)
Jim McGovern (D-MA)
Hilda Solis (D-CA)
Doris Matsui (D-CA)
Phil Hare (D-IL)
Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Louise Slaughter (D-NY)
Charlie Rangel (D-NY)
Roy Blunt (R-MO)
Howard Coble (R-NC)
Richard Neal (D-MA)
Dave Camp (R-MI)
John Tanner (D-TN) -- but with strong objections to the lack of offsets
Zach Wamp (R-TN)
John Lewis (D-GA)
Kevin Brady (R-TX)
Ron Kind (D-WI)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Jim McCrery (R-LA)
Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Barney Frank (D-MA)
Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Jim Moran (D-VA)
Tom Cole (R-OK)
Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Jim Marshall (D-GA)
Judy Biggert (R-IL)
David Scott (D-GA)
Danny Davis (D-IL)
John Dingell (D-MI) -- love how he just blows by the procedural pronouncements of the chair and delivers his remarks right over them
Gary Miller (R-CA)
Ed Perlmutter (D-CO) -- he doesn't actually say so, but he was a yes on Monday, and you don't enter into a colloquy with Barney Frank if you're not in agreement with him. You just don't.
Chris Shays (R-CT)
Paul Kanjorski (D-PA)
Paul Ryan (R-WI)
David Obey (D-WI)
Jerry Nadler (D-NY)
Donna Edwards (D-MD)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX)
Gwen Moore (D-WI)
Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Dan Lungren (R-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA) -- who says that Jesse Jackson, Jr. (D-IL) is joining her by associating himself with her remarks -- both, then, are switching.

Team Nuh-Uh
Virginia Foxx (R-NC)
Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Phil Gingrey (R-GA)
Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Tom Latham (R-IA)
Joe Barton (R-TX)
Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
Mike Pence (R-IN)
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Peter DeFazio (D-OR)
Steve LaTourette (R-OH) -- sees the futility of the tranching
David Dreier (R-CA)
Pete Stark (D-CA)
Devin Nunes (R-CA) -- that is one seriously obscure Member
Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Jeb Hensarling (R-TX)
Scott Garrett (R-NJ)
Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL)
Ron Paul (R-TX)

Team I Dunno
Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) -- supporting the rule

Team Won't Say Out Loud
Jim McCrery (R-LA) -- voted for the Monday version, though, so probably a Hafta

Switchers
Howard Coble (R-NC)
Zach Wamp (R-TN)
John Lewis (D-GA)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Gresham Barrett (R-SC)
Judy Biggert (R-IL)
David Scott (D-GA)
David Dreier (R-CA)

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Today in Congress/Open Thread

Fri Oct 03, 2008 at 06:36:24 AM PDT

In the House, courtesy of the Office of the Majority Leader:

FLOOR SCHEDULE FOR FRIDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2008

House meets at 9:00 a.m. for Legislative Business

Five "One Minutes" Per Side

Last Vote Predicted: 3:00 p.m.

Senate Amendments to H.R. 1424 - Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Rep. Frank – Financial Services/ Ways and Means) (Subject to a Rule)

H.Res. 1526Same Day Consideration and Suspension Authority Rule – Providing for consideration of motions to suspend the rules and waiving a requirement of clause 6(a) of rule XIII with respect to consideration of certain resolutions reported from the Committee on Rules (Rep. Slaughter – Rules)

Suspension Bill (1 Bill):

1)     H.R. 6867 - The Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2008 (Rep. McDermott – Ways and Means)

Pending Suspension Vote (1 Bill):

1)     S. 3197 - National Guard and Reservists Debt Relief Act of 2008 (Sen. Durbin - Judiciary)

No Senate session today, either. They're in recess with no plans to come back, except for pro forma sessions (probably to keep the Pretzeldent from making any recess appointments) through mid-November, though they reserved the right to come back if something goes wrong with the bailout package in the House.

That means the Senate has successfully stuck the House with their version of the package and skipped town, just like they did with their FISA amendments in August of 2007. (And you thought FISA was just about FISA, and would go away!)

Note that they're going to have to pass yet another same-day consideration rule (not to mention adding a clause to allow yet more Friday consideration of suspensions). I bring that up not because it's all that unusual, especially at the end of a session, but rather because I'm reminded that one of the more interesting reform efforts aimed at increasing transparency in the Congress is a rules change that would require that all bills be posted on the Internet for public inspection for three days before a vote is allowed. But today's vote will show just how easily disposed of such a rule might really be. Makes campaigning for transparency just that much more difficult, you know?

Early indications are that enough Members are thinking about changing their votes to make a difference, but there are at least a few Blue Dogs who might be upset enough that the tax provisions added in the Senate aren't paid for under PAYGO rules. But the Blue Dog caucus may end up as fractured on this bill as the party caucuses were. The counting will have to be done carefully. Then again, I'm sure the leadership has no intention of adjourning until some damn thing is passed on this. If this version of the package fails tomorrow, nobody's going to care much what that something is, just so long as it happens and happens fast.

Oh, by the way, the bill has grown a bit over the past few days, as you might have guessed. From the three page ransom note originally sent over by Paulson, to the 110 page House bill that failed on Monday, to a 440 pager adopted by the Senate on Wednesday.

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Palin Debate Preview: The Primer

Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 05:38:40 PM PDT

Key points to look for and keep in mind as you watch tonight:

Most immediately, it's not -- and shouldn't be -- about raising expectations by looking at her 2006 performances, or lowering them by looking at, well, everything else she's ever done. The traditional game of raising expectations is simply not plausible with Palin. But we should all of us -- partisans and press alike -- be looking to change expectations. What do we mean by changing expectations? If Palin, or indeed any candidate, is merely expected to survive, well, obviously she'll meet and exceed those expectations. But if she's expected to actually answer the questions posed and not simply offer some kind of verbalized response to them, that's a different story. Frankly, allowing a candidate to demonstrate a pulse and little more is an awfully stupid way of evaluating a candidate, but for some reason, that's what it's come to. And that's what needs to change if the traditional media is going to add any value to this thing. Why has the media fallen into scoring debates this way? Because declaring a winner based on the substantive answers feels partisan, even when it's not. So instead, you get coverage like we always get, and like the Palin/Halcro/Knowles debate in 2006 got. Halcro and Knowles both mop the floor with Palin on substance, and the reportage actually equates Palin's folk tales with the studied and substantive responses of Halcro and Knowles. Hey, they were all verbal utterances, properly synchronized to follow questions put to them by moderators! It's a tie! So what will Palin's debate technique likely be? The technique -- as distinct from her tactics -- will be first and foremost to recite the focus group-tested talking points she's memorized from her GOPAC training. That is what will pass for the "substance" of her responses. The goal for Palin is to find her way to that "substance" (I use the word reservedly) which most closely matches the topic of the question with a minimum of fumbling and verbal wandering. To steady her nerves and to give herself a chance of sounding on topic, she will repeat words from the question. Then she'll recite every talking point she can fit in 90 seconds that might bear some resemblance to the question. All you have to do is look at her answer to Couric on the bailout plan to see that:
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You can almost hear the gears grinding: Bailout. That's finance. OK, uh, Wall Street/Main Street; shore up economy; globalization; John McCain; leadership; taxpayers; uhh.... money... that's health care, too; jobs; tax relief; spending cuts; trade. That's all money stuff, right? OK -- go, mouth!

If that kind of response gets "graded" as an answer, and is held up as the equivalent of anything her opponent says on the subject, we've been had.

That kind of incoherent word spray (or "word salad," if you like) is the result of GOPAC training, but Palin has created her own, supercharged brand of it. And as a result it's turned into a trademark hook that results in the opposite effect from that intended. Instead of smoothing over and hiding a candidate's unpreparedness on any (or in this case, every) given subject, it instead highlights it, and makes it jump out of your TV like the Wilhelm Scream jumps off the big screen. You don't have to be an expert in how it's done, you just have to have it shown to you once, and you'll never miss it again.Andrew Halcro saw it in 2006, and he'll tell you what it looks like:

Palin is a master of the nonanswer. She can turn a 60-second response to a query about her specific solutions to healthcare challenges into a folksy story about how she's met people on the campaign trail who face healthcare challenges. All without uttering a word about her public-policy solutions to healthcare challenges.

And when she does answer the actual question asked, she has a canny ability to connect with the audience on a personal level. For example, asked to name a major issue that had been ignored during the campaign, I discussed the health of local communities, Mr. Knowles talked about affordable healthcare, and Palin talked about ... the need to protect hunting and fishing rights.

See it? She "answered" the question. But only by knocking the level of the discussion down to where she could handle it. Are there issues surrounding hunting and fishing rights? Sure! But do they need to be at the top of the list, ahead of health care, for instance? Well, there are two kinds of people who say yes: people for whom personal hunting and fishing rights genuinely trump everything else in the world (and whom you therefore probably do not want to trust with the presidency), and; people who can't coherently discuss anything else. Pick whichever you like for Palin.

That's where you'll begin to see what Palin's tactics are, as opposed to her technique. Connect with the audience on whatever level possible. Tonight, that'll likely be motherhood and Regular Gal-ism. Another Palin favorite, though, is the old Pit Bull routine she told us about when we first met her. Attack Obama, using the focus group-tested stuff. (They may be forced to go with the "doesn't understand" stuff that flopped so miserably in the Obama-McCain debate.) Attack the media for... well, for asking her questions, I guess. We'll see how that flies. Probably flops in the room, but they'll insist in Spin Alley that it killed in TeeVee Land. But this is the stuff of traditional media analysis, and you'll get plenty of that tonight as it is.

So, media, the word is out. Or, if you like, the blood is in the water.

You have permission to call it out if you see it, guys. Don't give in to the temptation to sugar coat it. Don't pretend that senseless, empty responses well-delivered count as "holding your own." If it's well-crafted and well-delivered gibberish, it's still gibberish.

Tell us whether there's nothing in these answers. Don't feel bad for or coddle Republican readers. Palin was their choice. You don't have to apologize to them for her.

Above all, don't try to tell us we saw something we didn't see up there on the stage. To be honest, too much of that pablum is what's been driving people from your papers and into the arms of the blogs. Now that the future of the country is at stake (again), please just don't make things worse for yourselves. Not to mention the rest of us.

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Today in Congress/Open Thread

Thu Oct 02, 2008 at 06:35:12 AM PDT

In the House, courtesy of the Office of the Majority Leader:

FLOOR SCHEDULE FOR THURSDAY, OCTOBER 2, 2008

House meets at 12:00 p.m. for Legislative Business

Ten "One Minutes" Per Side

Last Vote Predicted: Evening

Votes will be postponed until after 5:00 p.m.

Suspension bills (9 Bills):

1)     S. 3641 - A bill to authorize funding for the National Crime Victim Law Institute to provide support for victims of crime under Crime Victims Legal Assistance Programs as a part of the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (Sen. Kyl - Judiciary)

2)     S. 3197 - National Guard and Reservists Debt Relief Act of 2008 (Sen. Durbin - Judiciary):

3)     H.R. 3971 - Death in Custody Reporting Act of 2008 (Rep. Scott (VA) - Judiciary)    

4)     H.R. 6064 - National Silver Alert Bill (Rep. Doggett - Judiciary)

5)     H.R. 6503 - Missing Alzheimer's Disease Patient Alert Program Reauthorization of 2008 (Rep. Waters - Judiciary)

6)     H.R. 6838 - Center to Advance, Monitor, and Preserve University Security Safety Act of 2008 (Rep. Scott (VA) - Judiciary)

7)     H.R. 5464 - A Child Is Missing Alert and Recovery Center Act (Rep. Klein - Judiciary)

8)     H.R. 2352 - School Safety Enhancements Act of 2007(Rep. Rothman - Judiciary)

9)     S. 1518 /H.R. 7221 - Community Partnership to End Homelessness Act of 2007 (Sen. Reed – Financial Services)

**Possible Consideration of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (Subject to a Rule)

Conference Reports may be brought up at any time. Motions to go to Conference should they become available. Possible Motions to Instruct Conferees.

In the Senate, courtesy of the Office of the Majority Leader:

Convenes: 10:00am

Morning Business with senators permitted to speak for up to 10 minutes each.  

Nothing doing in the Senate tomorrow. The House busies itself with another day of suspensions and other last minute business while it considers whether it's ready to take up the Senate-passed bailout bill right away, or whether it needs another day before giving up and considering it.

And as I mentioned late last night, one upshot of last night's Senate outcome is the storyline that when John McCain jetted into town to broker a deal, his deal fell apart. When Obama came to town and started working the phones, the bailout passed.

I didn't like the bill, but that's something to take away from it.

UPDATE: Meanwhile, on Planet Make Believe:

Democratic nominee Barack Obama was irresponsible, though, to not get involved in bailout negotiations, Palin said. "John McCain was leading this charge toward a bipartisan effort that could help support Wall Street," the Republican vice presidential candidate said, "but Barack Obama was phoning it in."

And that's not even the dumbest thing she says in that article.

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Senate bailout vote

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 06:10:01 PM PDT

A little over an hour late, but we're finally onto the bailout vote.

The speakers earlier today -- at least the ones I caught -- broke about 24-7 in favor, 14 Ds in support and 10 Rs. On the "no" side, two Ds plus Sanders, and 4 Rs.

No word on the floor from McCain. Or Lieberman, for that matter.

Should pass with room to spare.

Here comes the roll call.

Akaka - Aye
Alexander - Aye
Allard - No
Barasso - Aye No
Baucus - Aye
Bayh - Aye
Bennett - Aye
Biden - Aye
Bingaman - Aye
Bond - Aye
Boxer - Aye
Brown - Aye
Brownback - No
Bunning - No
Burr - Aye
Byrd - Aye
Cantwell - No
Cardin - Aye
Carper -
Casey - Aye
Chambliss - Aye
Clinton - Aye
Coburn - Aye
Cochran - No
Coleman - Aye
Collins - Aye
Conrad - Aye
Corker - Aye
Cornyn - Aye
Craig - Aye
Crapo - No
DeMint - No
Dodd - Aye
Dole - No
Domenici - Aye
Dorgan - No
Durbin - Aye
Ensign - Aye
Enzi - No
Feingold - No
Feinstein - Aye
Graham - Aye
Grassley - Aye
Gregg - Aye
Hagel - Aye
Harkin - Aye
Hatch - Aye
Hutchison - Aye
Inhofe - No
Inoye - Aye
Isakson - Aye
Johnson - No
Kennedy - n/v
Kerry - Aye
Klobuchar - Aye
Kohl - Aye
Kyl - Aye
Landrieu - No
Lautenberg - Aye
Leahy - Aye
Levin - Aye
Lieberman - Aye
Lincoln - Aye
Lugar - Aye
Martinez - Aye
McCain - Aye
McCaskill - Aye
McConnell - Aye
Menendez - Aye
Mikulski - Aye
Murkowski - Aye
Murray - Aye
Nelson, FL - No
Nelson, NE - Aye
Obama - Aye
Pryor - Aye
Reed - Aye
Reid - Aye
Roberts - No
Rockefeller - Aye
Salazar - Aye
Sanders - No
Schumer - Aye
Sessions - No
Shelby - No
Smith - Aye
Snowe - Aye
Specter - Aye
Stabenow - No
Stevens - Aye
Sununu - Aye
Tester - No
Thune - Aye
Vitter - No
Voinovich - Aye
Warner - Aye
Webb - Aye
Whitehouse - Aye
Wicker - No
Wyden - No

74-25, the bill is passed. Or technically, the amendment is agreed to. Now that the amendment is agreed to, they'll vote on passing the bill as amended, which means it's pretty much the exact same vote, as the Majority Leader said.

P.S. -- One upshot of this outcome is that when John McCain jetted into town to broker a deal, his deal fell apart. When Obama came to town and started working the phones, the bailout passed.

I didn't like the bill, but that's something to take away from it.

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Senate bailout debate III

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 04:54:12 PM PDT

(Bumped. Susan)

Thanks to Hunter for some mildly amusing stuff, found tucked in among the bailout bill provisions:

Page 279 — Rum excise tax to Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands

Page 280 — Mine rescue / mine safety

Page 290 — Motorsports racing track facility

Page 290 — Hurricane Katrina and Gulf opportunity zone

Page 295 — Wool modifications

Page 296 — Permanent authority for undercover operations

Page 297 — Child tax credit

Page 300 — Children and wooden arrows

6:42:00 p.m. EDT. Lindsey Graham:

To those who say that $700 billion of taxpayer money will be spent, and it's gone, you don't know what you're talking about. You're scaring people.

6:42:30 p.m. EDT. Lindsey Graham:

If we do nothing, we're headed to a recession, maybe a depression.

7:30 p.m. EDT. Kay Bailey Hutchison demonstrates one of the oddities of Senate procedure. They're out of debate time on the bailout package, so she's using time allotted to the passage of the Amtrak bill to debate the bailout instead.

7:45 p.m. EDT. Hutchison:

[The bailout package is now] a much more measured approach, and responsible approach than has been represented, as what was presented by the Secretary early on. A $700 billion bailout. It is not that any more. It is a responsible, bipartisan effort to stand up for the economy of the United States of America.

Well, you can do what you want to us, but we are not going to stand here... and listen you... badmouth the economy of the United States of America!

7:46 p.m. EDT. Senator Lautenberg takes us back to the Amtrak bill.

8:51 p.m. EDT. The Sanders amendment appears to have gone down on a voice vote, with no one but Sanders himself audibly voting in support. Ouch.

Team Hafta
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Chris Dodd (D-CT)
Tom Coburn (R-OK) -- Oh, dear.
Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Bob Casey (D-PA)
Barack Obama (D-IL)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Pete Domenici (R-NM)
Bob Menendez (D-NJ)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) -- uses McCain's Sonic restaurant franchisees story
John Kerry (D-MA)
Mel Martinez (R-FL) -- haven't heard him say yes yet, but he's praising Paulson of all people, so draw your own conclusions
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
Dick Durbin (D-IL)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX)
Harry Reid (D-NV)

Team Nuh-Uh
David Vitter (R-LA) -- apparently not afraid of economic pants-wetting, for whatever reason
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)
Maria Cantwell (D-WA) -- I think. Not the clearest speech in the world.

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Updated -- Palin Debate Preview III: Don't just take my word for it.

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 03:30:11 PM PDT

Take it from someone who knows first hand, and says pretty much the same thing:

When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday night, Joe Biden will have his hands full.

I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or anyone, can do.

This is the testimony of Andrew Halcro, an independent candidate in Alaska's 2006 gubernatorial contest in which Palin was victorious. It was in her debates with Halcro and former Democratic governor Tony Knowles that Palin gained her reputation as a "successful" debater, despite her seeming inability to string coherent arguments together even then. Halcro watched her style carefully, and close up, and he makes a convincing argument that Palin was unwilling or unable to actually answer most if not all of the questions put to her.

And yet, she won the race. And to hear the press tell it, the debates, too. How can that be?

As I argued earlier, I think it's rooted in the nature of the debating format versus the interview format, and in traditions of journalistic debate coverage. Interview answers are open ended, and can be followed-up with more precise questioning if warranted. That means Palin has to think on her feet while she's answering, and that seems to be where her weaknesses are most readily exposed. Debate answers are finite, capped in this case at 90 seconds, and follow-up opportunities will be severely curtailed. The rules of the debate prohibit Biden from doing it, and the McCain camp is already aggressively "working the refs" to try to make sure that debate moderator Gwen Ifill feels constrained from doing so, too.

Without the twin pressures of open ended and follow-up questioning, Palin is free to execute her game plan: filling the air with the squid ink of buzzwords and whatever pre-planned and focus group-tested soundbites she's able to bring to mind and thinks bear at least some tangential relation to the question asked.

Listen to Halcro tell it:

Palin is a master of the nonanswer. She can turn a 60-second response to a query about her specific solutions to healthcare challenges into a folksy story about how she's met people on the campaign trail who face healthcare challenges. All without uttering a word about her public-policy solutions to healthcare challenges.

That's it, in a nutshell. And that's what we'll likely see from Palin on Thursday. And if you know it's coming, it can be, as I argued before, like hearing the Wilhelm Scream jump right off the movie theater screen at you. Only here's the thing: if the political press aren't hip to the joke, they won't get it. Observe:

On paper, the difference in experience on both domestic and foreign policy is like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing a bullet. Unfortunately for Biden, if recent history is an indicator, experience or a grasp of the issues won't matter when it comes to debating Palin.

On April 17, 2006, Palin and I participated in a debate at the University of Alaska in Fairbanks on agriculture issues. The next day, the Fairbanks Daily News Miner published this excerpt:

"Andrew Halcro, a declared independent candidate from Anchorage, came armed with statistics on agricultural productivity. Sarah Palin, a Republican from Wasilla, said the Matanuska Valley provides a positive example for other communities interested in agriculture to study."

Again, Halcro nails it. The professional political press too often feels constrained from calling it as they see it. I'm sure that no one watching the debate objectively -- as the press are supposed to be doing -- could have written that and also answered the question of whether Palin's answers were qualitatively as good as Halcro's. It's obvious from what's written that they were not. And yet, no clear pronouncement of Halcro of the winner.

And in these debates, there hardly ever is. Because declaring a winner based on the substantive answers feels partisan, even when it's not. So instead, you get coverage like this. Halcro mops the floor with Palin on substance, and the reportage actually equates Palin's folk tale with Halcro's studied and substantive response.

La la la! See? We're all friends here!

Nonsense. Palin got blown out of the water by any real measure. Even the much-circulated YouTube videos purporting to show that she's a surprisingly competent debater don't show anything different than what Halcro is describing here. To be sure, Palin does not fall out of her chair, doesn't mispronounce anything obvious, doesn't burst into tears or cover her face in shame at any point during the debate. But that's not what "winning" a debate is actually supposed to mean. That's just the little "fair and balanced" box that the media -- largely because of aggressive "working of the refs" -- have been forced to cram debate scoring into. And the box is now known as the "expectations game." Nevermind what was actually said and what its relative worth was. Did it meet, exceed, or underperform "expectations"? That has become the only measure by which the bullied and beat-up media feel "safe" judging debates.

Another Halcro observation -- and my apologies to both Mr. Halcro and the Christian Science Monitor, which carried this piece, but they've hit the mother lode with this whole thing, and everyone needs to know it:

On April 18, 2006, Palin and I sat together in a hotel coffee shop comparing campaign trail notes. As we talked about the debates, Palin made a comment that highlights the phenomenon that Biden is up against.

"Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, and I'm amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask myself, 'Does any of this really matter?' " Palin said.

While policy wonks such as Biden might cringe, it seemed to me that Palin was simply vocalizing her strength without realizing it. During the campaign, Palin's knowledge on public policy issues never matured – because it didn't have to. Her ability to fill the debate halls with her presence and her gift of the glittering generality made it possible for her to rely on populism instead of policy.

Never matured. Never had to. And it likely hasn't in the past few weeks, either, because even when in the national spotlight, Republicans like Palin (and to some extent, the "new" McCain, who long ago abandoned the Straight Talk Express, 2000-style campaign persona that made him famous) know that substance still doesn't matter so long as the press scores debates in their traditional fashion. Halcro knows that all too well. He's been sorely disappointed before, and sees it's likely to happen again.

And he's right. But for one strange anomaly in this race: the deference that usually moves the press to score debates -- and indeed entire campaigns -- this way has been missing up to this point, with respect to Palin. The McCain camp has been doing their damnedest to blame this on "liberal media bias," and less successfully, in previous weeks, on "sexism." But I think it has more to do with the fact that many of them are seeing this phenomenon in the rawest form they've ever witnessed, due to Palin's lack of polish. Normally, no Republican aspirant is exposed to them in this way without first having proven her mettle on her way up what is ordinarily a much, much longer ladder.

And so it has happened that the national media are in fact discussing the stunning lack of substance in her answers. Or at least, they have been, with respect to her disastrous interviews. Whether those observations will carry over and color the post-debate coverage remains to be seen. At some major outlets, the national reporters and opinion journalists who cover the campaigns in general are not necessarily the ones who'll be reviewing the debate performance. In other cases, the fear of appearing too partisan may preclude making the exact same observations about the exact same lack of substance that they've already made about her interviews, with respect to her debate performance, as incredible and as counterintuitive as that may be.

But the narrative is out there for them to build on if they dare, and we'll take a look at some examples of it next. Make no mistake, the leading traditional media outlets know very well that just because Palin responds to a question doesn't mean she's answered it. The question is whether they'll have the courage to say so after being dogged for weeks by McCain's people not to say so after the debate.

UPDATE: O. M. G.

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This tape is stunning. She can't name another Supreme Court case that she disagrees with (or likely one she agrees with, either, let's be honest). But notice what she does. Can't think of one, so she instead makes two mentions of the "great history of America," launches into some sort of half-assed states rights screed, throws in -- yet again -- a plea to be "so privileged" to be elected with John McCain, and tries to assert that she'd then be in a position to change the decisions she doesn't know about and can't name.

Word spray. Squid ink. Gibberish.

With Couric there to prod her, it's a stunning embarrassment. With a 90 second clock running, no applause allowed, and no opportunity for follow up, it's "holding your own."

Unless the traveling press finds its courage, somehow.

Please. You folks can spare us a lot of agony if you'll just say what we all know you're thinking.

UPDATE 2: Just by way of compiling all the last few days' documentary evidence in one place:

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Senate bailout debate II

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 02:51:57 PM PDT

Obama takes the floor:

Thank you very much, Madam President. And thank you to the distinguished Senator from Connecticut, not only for yielding time, but also for the extraordinarily hard work that he's put in over the last several days, and in fact, over a week. And I want to thank his counterparts on the other side, including Senator Gregg, for their hard work.

Now, the fact that we're even here voting on a plan to rescue our economy from the greed and irresponsibility of Wall Street, and some in Washington, is an outrage. It's an outrage to every American who works hard, pays their taxes, and is doing their best every day to make a better life for themselves and their families. And understandably, people are frustrated. They're angry that Wall Street's mistakes have put their tax dollars at risk. And they should be. I'm frustrated and angry, too. But while there's plenty of blame to go around, and many in Washington and Wall Street who deserve it, all of us -- all of us -- have a responsibility to solve this crisis because it affects the financial well-being of every single American. There will be time to punish those who set this fire, but now's not the time to argue about how it got set or did the neighbor sleep in his bed or leave the stove on. Right now we want to put out that fire. And now's the time for us to come together and do that.

When the House of Representatives failed to act on Monday, we saw the single largest decline in the stock market in two decades. Over $1 trillion of wealth was lost by the time the markets closed. And it wasn't just the wealth a few CEOs or Wall Street executives. The 401(k)s and retirement accounts of millions became smaller. The state pension funds of teachers and government employees lost billions upon billions of dollars. Hard-working Americans who invested their nest egg to watch it grow saw it diminish and in some cases disappear. And while that decline was devastating, the consequences of the credit crisis that caused it will be even worse if we do not act now. We're in a very dangerous situation where financial institutions across this country are afraid to lend money. And if all that meant was the failure of a few banks in New York, that would be one thing. But that's not what it means. What it means is, if we don't act, it will be harder for Americans to get a mortgage for their home or loans they need to buy a car or send their children to college. What it means is that businesses won't be able to get the loans they need to open a new factory or make payroll for their workers. And if they can't make payroll on Friday, then workers are laid off on Monday. And if workers are laid off on Monday, then they can't pay their bills or pay back their loans to somebody else. And it will go on and on and on, rippling through the entire economy. Potentially we could see thousands of businesses close, millions of jobs could be lost, and a long and painful recession could follow. In other words, this is not just a Wall Street crisis, it's an American crisis. And it's the American economy that needs this rescue plan.  understand completely why people would be skeptical when this president asks for a blank check to solve this problem. I was too, as was Senator Dodd, and a whole bunch of us here. That's why over a week ago, I demanded that this plan include some specific proposals to protect taxpayers. Protections that the administration eventually agreed to, and thanks to the hard work of Senator Dodd and Republican counterparts like Senator Gregg, we here in the Senate have agreed to and now hopefully the House will agree to as well.

Let me just go over those principles. Number one, I said we needed an independent board to provide oversight and accountability for how and where this money is spent at every step of the way.

Number two, I said that we cannot help banks on Wall Street without helping the millions of innocent homeowners who are struggling to stay in their homes. They deserve a plan too.

Number three, I said that I would not allow this plan to become a welfare program for Wall Street executives whose greed and irresponsibility got us into this mess.

And finally, I said that if American taxpayers are financing this solution, then they have to be treated like investors. They should get every penny of their tax dollars back once the economy recovers.

Now, this last part is important because it's been the most misunderstood and poorly communicated part of this plan. This is not a plan to just hand over $700 billion of taxpayer money to a few banks. If this is managed correctly -- and that's an important "if" -- we will hopefully get most or all of our money back and possibly even turn a profit on the government's intervention. Every penny of which will go directly back to the American people. And if we fall short, we will levee a fee on financial institutions so that they can repay for the losses that they caused.

Now, let's acknowledge, even with all these taxpayer protections, this plan is not perfect. Democrats and Republicans in Congress have legitimate concerns about it. Some of my closest colleagues, people I have the greatest respect for, still have problems with it and may choose to vote against this bill, and I think that we can respectfully disagree. I understand their frustrations. I also know that many Americans share their concerns. But it's clear that from my perspective, this is what we need to do right now. To prevent the possibility of a crisis turning into a catastrophe. It is conceivable, it's possible that if we did nothing, everything would turn out okay. It's -- there's a possibility that that's true. And there's no doubt that there may be other plans out there that, had we had two or three or six months to develop, might be even more refined and might serve our purposes better. But we don't have that kind of time. And we can't afford to take a risk that the economy of the United states of America and as a consequence the worldwide economy, could be plunged into a very, very deep hole. So to Democrats and Republicans who've opposed this plan, I say, step up to the plate, let's do what's right for the country at this time, because the time to act is now.

I know many Americans are wondering what happens next in passing this -- what happens next. And passing this bill can't be the end of our work to strengthen the economy, it must be the beginning. Because one thing I think all of us who may end up supporting this bill understand is that even if we get this in place, we could still have enormous problems and probably will have big problems in the economy over the next several months and potentially longer. Because the fact is, is that we have seen some mismanagement of the fundamentals of the economy for a very long time, and we are not going to dig ourselves out of that hole immediately. This this is not the end. This is the beginning. As soon as we pass this rescue plan, we need to move aggressively with the same sense of urgency to help families on Main Street who are struggling to pay their bills and keep their jobs. They've been in crisis a lot longer than Wall Street has. I said it before and I say it again, we need to pass an economic stimulus package that will help ordinary Americans cope with rising food and gas prices, that can save 1 million jobs rebuilding our schools and roads and help infrastructure, and help cities and states avoid budget cuts and tax increases. A plan that would extend expiring unemployment benefits for those Americans who've lost their jobs and cannot find new ones. That's the right thing to do at a time when consumer confidence is down and we are in great danger of slipping into a big recession.

We also must do more in this rescue package in order to help homeowners stay in their homes. I will continue to advocate bankruptcy reforms. I know my colleague from Illinois, Dick Durbin, has been a strong champion of this, as have many.

It is the right thing to do to change our bankruptcy laws so that people have a better chance of staying in their homes and we're not seeing communities devastated all across the country. We should encourage Treasury to study the option of buying individual mortgages like we did successfully in the 1930's. And finally, while we all hope that this rescue package succeeds, we should be  prepared to take more vigorous actions in the months ahead to rebuild capital, if it's necessary. Just as families are planning for their future and tough times, Washington's going to have to do the same. Runaway spending and record deficits are not how families run their budgets. It can't be how Washington handles people's tax dollars. So we're going to have to return to the fiscal responsibility we have we had in the 1990s. And the next White House and the next Congress is going to have to work together to make sure that we go through our budget, we get rid of programs that don't work, that we make the ones that do work better and cost less. With less money flowing into the Treasury, some useful programs or policies might need to be delayed. Some might need to be stretched out over a longer period of time, but there are certain investments in our future that we cannot know precisely because our economy is in turmoil.

Mr. President, I've exceeded the time a little bit. I would like unanimous consent for a couple more minutes. thank you. There are certain investments in our future that we can't delay precisely because the economy's in turmoil. We can't wait to help Americans keep up with rising costs and shrinking paychecks and we're going to do that by making sure that we are giving our workers a middle-class tax cut. We can't wait to relieve the burden of crushing health care costs. We can't wait to create millions of new jobs by rebuilding our roads and our bridges and investing in broadband lines in rural communities and fixing our electricity grid so we can get renewable energy to population centers that need them. We need to develop an energy policy that prevents us from sending $700 billion a year to tyrants and dictators for their oil. We can't wait to education the next generation of Americans with the skills and knowledge they need to compete with any workers anywhere in the world. These are the priorities we can't -- cannot delay.

Now, let me just close by saying this. I do not think this is going to be easy. It's not going to come without costs. We are all going to need to sacrifice. We're all going to need to pull our weight. Because now, more than ever, we are all in this together. That's part of what this crisis has taught us, that at the end of the day, there's no real separation between Wall Street and Main Street. There's only the road we're traveling on as Americans. And we will rise or fall on that journey as one nation and as one people. I know that many Americans are feeling anxiety right now about their jobs, about their homes, about their life savings. But I also know this. That we can steer ourselves out of this crisis. We always have. During the great financial crisis of the last century, in his first fireside chat, F.D.R. told his fellow Americans that, "There is an element in the readjustment of our financial system more important than currency, more important than gold and that is the confidence of the people themselves. Confidence and courage are the essentials of success in carrying out our plan. Let us unite in banishing fear. Today we cannot fail. We cannot fail -- not now, not tomorrow, not next year.

This is a nation that's faced down war and depression, great challenges and great threats. And at each and every moment, we have risen up to meet these challenges. Not as Democrats, not as Republicans but as Americans with resolve and with confidence. With that fundamental belief that here in America, our destiny is not written for us, it's written by us. That's who we are and that's the country I know we can be right now.

I want to thank again the extraordinary leadership of Chairman Dodd and the Banking Committee as well as Chairman Baucus and Majority Leader Reid. They have worked tirelessly. I want to thank the leadership in the House of Representatives. I urge my colleagues to join me in supporting this important legislation, understanding that this will not solve all our problems. It is a necessary but not sufficient step to make sure that this economy once again works on behalf of all Americans in their pursuit of the American dream. Thank you, Mr. President. I yield the floor.

5:26 EDT. Sanders amendment.

6:00 EDT. I gotta go get the kids. Keep watching!

Team Hafta
Hillary Clinton
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Chris Dodd (D-CT)
Tom Coburn (R-OK) -- Oh, dear.
Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Bob Casey (D-PA)
Barack Obama (D-IL)
Chuck Schumer (D-NY)
Pete Domenici (R-NM)
Bob Menendez (D-NJ)
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) -- uses McCain's Sonic restaurant franchisees story

Team Nuh-Uh
David Vitter (R-LA) -- apparently not afraid of economic pants-wetting, for whatever reason
Jim DeMint (R-SC)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Jeff Sessions (R-AL)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Bill Nelson (D-FL)

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Senate bailout debate

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 02:01:19 PM PDT

(Bumped. Susan)

Here we go.

Just about 25 minutes behind schedule (or at least, that's when I started writing), the Senate has begun debate on the bailout bill. Well, sort of. That is, there were some remarks earlier in the day that were about the bailout, because under Senate rules and procedures, Senators who wanted to address that issue when they were good and ready to do so could claim time even during the debate on other bills, and just speak about whatever the heck they wanted to. So they did. And I'll have to double back and check on who said what earlier in the day.

And even now it's not entirely correct to say that the debate is on the actual bailout package, because it hasn't actually been formally introduced yet. But let's face it, everyone knows pretty much what's in it, despite the fact that there are some last minute adjustments being made.

So while we're waiting for the formal introduction, slated to be handled by Sen. Chris Dodd (D-CT), we've got our first speaker up, Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), who's taking the "hafta" side.

We'll keep a running tally like we did the other day, though unlike the House, Senate speeches tend to go on for a bit. So updates in the list won't come as fast and furious as they did in the House debate. Maybe that'll give us a chance to take a closer look at what gets said. One interesting observation might be how many people talk specifically about the bailout that's at the heart of this thing, versus the much more popular tax extenders that were tacked on.

Senators for whom Senator Dodd has requested floor time: Baucus, Mikulski, Brown, Cantwell, Harkin, Conrad, Casey, Bill Nelson, Reed, Durbin, Obama, Schumer, Boxer, Menendez, and Kerry. I'm assuming he meant Jack Reed and not Harry Reid, only because Reid can get his own time pretty much at will. Everybody on the list gets five minutes, except Baucus, who just objected that he needed more time, and got 12.

Comments of note, Max Baucus:

For the taxpayers' sake, I also wrote a provision creating a special watchdog to track and protect taxpayers' dollars. I have said that American resources must be used wisely and efficiently. This bill includes my proposal to create an independent Inspector General to oversee this effort. This effort and nothing else. Solely designed [sic] on this problem. I designed the office of this Inspector General to be truly independent, with the necessary resources to fight for every taxpayer dollar. I designed this Inspector General to be accountable only to the Congress and to the American taxpayer. It will be my personal ambition to make sure that this watchdog does his or her job. I want this Inspector General on the ground, in New York, inside the firms that facilitate Treasury auctions, watching every dollar that comes and goes. This investigator will hear from the Finance Committee as we work to protect the American people's interest in this effort.

And now, five Senators into the debate, the bill itself is actually introduced. Remember, they'll be using an old legislative vehicle, H.R. 1424, to hollow out and replace with the bailout package. That's a House bill as you can see from the H.R. designation (Senate bills are numbered with an "S."), which means that they're technically getting around the constitutional requirement that tax provisions start in the House. This bill started in the House, and that's considered enough cover for constitutional purposes, even if the tax provisions are really originating in the Senate.

3:33 p.m. EDT. Onto the Dodd amendment. Dodd really going to town on the rhetoric, looking to history already. Comparing opposition to the bailout to passage of Smoot-Hawley.

3:52 p.m. EDT. Dodd, noting the paucity of specifics in the "administration's" original proposal:

If I may, just to remind my colleagues, this is the bill. Ha! I hold it in my hands. Three pages long. The bill that was sent to us by the administration. A bill that called for $700 billion, to go out without any questions asked, without any oversight, any accountability, any taxpayer protection. Three pages. I might point out, as I said to some, a no documentation loan for $100,000 to a sub-prime borrower a few years ago was four pages long. Here, a request for 700 billion is three pages long.

Even Crossword Tommy Coburn is gonna vote for it, despite the fact that he thinks pretty much everything in the world is unconstitutional, including everything on the floor today.

4:19 p.m. EDT. Susan Collins saved the world singlehandedly!

The initial proposal that the Treasury Secretary presented to us was deeply flawed. That is why I pushed for strong taxpayer protections to be included in the plan. It's why I insisted that any plan include limitations on excessive compensation and golden parachutes for executives of the Wall Street firms that helped create the current crisis, and that now seek federal assistance. Those controls and safeguards are part of the bipartisan package now before the Senate. And that is why, Madam President, I advocated for strong oversight and accountability provisions rather than a blank check for the Secretary of the Treasury. Those oversight and accountability provisions, too, have been included in this package.

Thanks, Sue! Who knew?

Recurring theme, just repeated by Mitch McConnell: the taxpayers will recoup their investment in this package, and maybe even turn a profit. I'm still waiting for the Iraq war to pay for itself.

4:45 p.m. EDT. McConnell adds, perhaps less than helpfully, that the National Review supports the package, the Heritage Foundation supports it, and so do George Will and Charles Krauthammer. So too would Larry Kudlow, the Wall Street Journal, and supposedly now Newt Gingrich, as well. Well, lah dee dah. I guess that must be something Newt muttered in between tic-like repetitions of the word, "frankly."

Anyway, here's where we stand at the moment, based on floor statements:

Team Hafta
Hillary Clinton
Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Max Baucus (D-MT)
Johnny Isakson (R-GA)
Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)
Bob Corker (R-TN)
Chris Dodd (D-CT)
Tom Coburn (R-OK) -- Oh, dear.
Kent Conrad (D-ND)
Susan Collins (R-ME)
Jack Reed (D-RI)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Bob Casey (D-PA)
Barack Obama (D-IL)

Team Nuh-Uh
David Vitter (R-LA) -- apparently not afraid of economic pants-wetting, for whatever reason

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Hey, guess what? Karl Rove is full of it!

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 01:55:10 PM PDT

You remember back when we were all being promised vigorous oversight of the bailout U.S. Attorneys firings?

And you remember when the various Congressional committees who were subpoenaing Karl Rove, Harriet Miers, Josh Bolten, et al.? And you remember how we eventually had to wait, like, a year to start enforcing those subpoenas, because the Congress was still "negotiating" with the White House to try to avoid an irreconcilable clash between the legislative and executive branches, and the White House was insisting that the Congress was a bunch of jerks because all these people would surely have agreed to be "interviewed" if we had just given them that option?

Well, turns out it was... wait for it... bullshit!

The Justice Department probe of the firings of nine U.S. attorneys was severely hampered by the refusal of former White House political aide Karl Rove and other White House officials to be interviewed by investigators, according to a report made public by investigators today.

Yep. So concludes the report from the Department of "Justice" Inspector General and the Office of Professional Responsibility. Gee whiz! What a shocker!

There's plenty more where that came from. Plenty of government-ese, that is, about how, you know, mistakes were made or about things that were "troubling," and statements that were "misleading." But all you really need to know is that when Rove, Miers and others were bleating to the press about how they, as executive branch officials, couldn't be made to answer to Congress under oath, but would gladly submit to "interviews," it was all a crock of shit. They weren't submitting to interviews requested by the executive branch, either.

Golly gee willikers, I wish we had knowed that! We coulda... we shoulda... if only...

Aw, we'll get 'em next year. With yet another investigation.

Investigators probing the firing of nine U.S. attorneys concluded that top Justice Department officials "abdicated their responsibility" by failing to supervise subordinates who carried out the botched plan, according to a long-awaited report released today.

At their urging, Attorney General Michael B. Mukasey selected a veteran federal prosecutor to continue the inquiry, focusing on whether department officials, including former attorney general Alberto R. Gonzales, misled Congress after the firings came to light last year.

Time saver for investigators: He did.

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Palin Debate Preview II: The Wilhelm Scream

Wed Oct 01, 2008 at 11:50:09 AM PDT

In my last take on the Palin debate preview, I discussed the widespread use by Republican candidates, particularly those trained by GOPAC, of interview and debating tactics designed to allow them to evade tough questions for which they're not intellectually prepared. That is, that when stuck, they'll often: 1) repeat back some of the words in the question to establish that they're "answering" it; 2) parry by steering the frame of their answers toward a talking point that bears some relation to the subect of the question; 3) spray some transitional buzzwords that help them segue from what they were asked to what they have prepared to say, and; 4) deliver the focus group-tested answer they originally planned, even if it's kind of a non-sequitur.

Normally, only the best-trained Republicans get the chance to demonstrate this technique on the national stage. Up-and-comers make use of the practice in local debates, with local media in the audience. And while the chances of being caught at it are just as great with local media as with national media, the professional inclination among journalists is simply not to insert themselves into the story by calling it out on their own, though they'll surely quote anyone who'll go on record to note it. Thus does such an obvious technique get by mostly unremarked upon.

And it is an obvious technique. It's obvious to even the casual observer, if you're willing to take mental note of it. But it's also forgettable enough that it usually just melts away. And as with most such situations, supporters hear what they want to hear, and opponents what they want. But to those who take the time to clearly note it, it's the "Wilhelm Scream" of politics. Once you've identified it and seen it in action, you'll never miss it again. And you'll laugh out loud when you hear it, again and again, from different candidates, in different states and different races. It becomes an inside joke among people who can identify it, just like the Wilhelm Scream itself:

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It takes practice to pull this stunt off smoothly enough not to be caught by most observers. But even if you are caught by local media or someone else willing to point it out, the damage, if any, is localized. You're still able to rely on rock solid Republican voters to carry you through, no matter what they hear or don't hear at the debate. (That much, even Palin's absurd case should make obvious by now.) Between the professional restraint among the media, and the extremely localized interest in such picayune issues as the debating technique of a single backbencher Congressman, the matter simply never gets enough play to warrant the notice of the national press.

But the VP slot is one of the few anomalous positions you can find yourself thrust into without adequate farm team development and training, simply by virtue of the fact that you can be more or less appointed to it from out of the blue. That doesn't usually happen -- and for good reason, now becoming increasingly obvious -- but here it did.

This hasn't happened before on the national level. So it's a great opportunity to chart out ahead of time how she's going to debate, and tip the press on how to recognize it.

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