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G*rd*n    More options Nov 9 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.postmodern
From: gord...@panix.com (G*rd*n)
Date: 1997/11/09
Subject: Re: nacla: postmodern socialisms

It seems to me the total globalization of capitalism
is modernistic, since it implies the possibility of
total rationalization of the world economy, the total
exploitation of labor, and so on.  In such a circumstance,
any corresponding socialism -- the ownership or control
of the means of production by the working class, or by
the people generally -- would also be global, total, and
modernistically rational, because the means of production
which are its center would be global, total, and
rational.  The opposition to this system would not be
in socialism but in feudal, monarchical, and religious
reaction, in organized crime and mafias, and in anarchic
groups and behaviors.
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sayan bhattacharyya    More options Nov 10 1997, 3:00 am
Newsgroups: alt.postmodern
From: bhatt...@skynet.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Date: 1997/11/10
Subject: Re: nacla: postmodern socialisms

This article is cross-posted from alt.india.progressive, where it
was posted by Sekhar Ramakrishnan.

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In article <645re3$...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu>,
Sekhar Ramakrishnan  <rama...@cudept.cis.columbia.edu> wrote:

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>/** nacla.report: 308.4 **/
>** Written  9:28 AM  Oct 24, 1997 by nacla in cdp:nacla.report **
>Reprinted from the May/June 1997 issue of NACLA Report on the
>Americas. For subscription information, E-Mail to nacla-i...@igc.apc.org

>Globalization and its Discontents: The Rise of Postmodern
>Socialisms

>by Roger Burbach, Orlando Nunez and Boris Kagarlitsky, Pluto
>Press, 1997, 196 pp., $49.95 (cloth), $19.95 (paper).

>The authors of this provocative book - activist/theorists from
>California, Nicaragua and the ex-Soviet Union - take "globalization" as a
>given. "In effect," they say, "capitalism and technology have collapsed
>time and space."

>And in the regions of the world where most people live, "governments
>find themselves weakened as international capital imposes its
>prerogatives on them." Those governments have simply become
>"administrative and law-enforcement complexes" for neoliberal
>capitalism.

>Whether this state of affairs represents anything qualitatively new in the
>history of capitalist development can be - and has been - called into
>question, but the authors are not interested in that particular debate.
>Rather, they are out to engage the reader on the nature of the system's
>"discontents," which, they claim, represent the first steps toward
>"postmodern socialisms."

>The current "world disorder," they say, has produced four
>"anti-systemic challenges." These are underclass crime and violence,
>ethnic and racial movements (like the Muslim nation of Farrakhan or the
>Zapatista rebels), Islamic fundamentalism (now spreading beyond the Middle
>East) and urban rebellions (linking the first three phenomena). These
>challenges, unlike the old "modern" challenges to capitalism, do not
>contest for state power. Rather, they attempt to construct power in the
>interstices of the old system. Their global significance is linked to the
>downfall of modernism: the "destabilizing impact" of late capitalism, the
>"ideological impasse" of liberal democracy and the collapse of (real
>existing) socialism as a political-economic alternative.

>One can argue that there is nothing particularly "postmodern" about
>self-help groups based on racial identity or about the political power of
>strongly held religious beliefs. And while the Zapatista National
>Liberation Army is on everybody's list as the first postmodern guerrilla
>movement, the Zapatistas can also be seen as very unpostmodern heirs to the
>Mexican Revolution, rebelling over questions of land and the tyranny of
>landlords - hardly "postmodern" questions.

>Nonetheless, if  the "globalization" they describe really is something new,
>Burbach, Nunez and Kagarlitsky may have some justification in sweeping
>these diverse political actors into a new political movement. There has
>been an exhaustion, say the authors, of the legacy of the French Revolution
>- the legacy that has shaped the politics of the past two centuries with
>its emphasis on the quest for state power and on the centrality of
>political parties to advance all interests and philosophies. If that is
>correct, these diverse challenges may indeed be, at least chronologically,
>postmodern.

>The authors link these "challenges" to the rise of "new postmodern
>economies" which "are comprised of highly differentiated activities and
>economic islands that rise phoenix-like out of what capitalism discards."
>These include the street vendors of the informal economies of Latin
>America, weak enterprises sold to workers, "cottage" activities of small
>firms that subcontract to big capital, the new (impoverished) peasantry of
>the ex-USSR, township enterprises of China and microenterprises in general.

>Again, there may be nothing new here. Capitalism has always
>marginalized certain activities, though many marginalized activities
>(like 16-hour workdays in off-shore sweatshops) have, in turn, been
>central to the functioning of the system.

>So having been "discarded," are these "highly differentiated
>activities" really outside the capitalist mode of production?  For
>Burbach, et. al., these marginal activities "are part of an emergent
>mode of production" and, as such, give rise to potential insurgencies: "A
>wave of mercantile and petty productive activity," say the authors, "will
>gradually begin to coalesce with other popular endeavors like cooperatives,
>worker-run concerns and municipal or township enterprises."

>This will produce "a vast class of associate producers," and a
>synthesis of capitalism and socialism.

>The content of the "postmodern" project comes out of the "new left"
>project of the 1960s. The authors emphasize participatory democracy,
>human rights, environmentalism, pacifism as an ideal, feminism,
>economic democracy, sexual freedom, social justice, ethnic liberation,
>local power and workers' power. These were the watchwords of Paris, 1968.

>Indeed, say the authors, "we are witnessing the struggles that burst
>into the open in 1968." A "new individuality" is being created which,
>in contrast to the old self-absorbed individualism, is defined "in
>relation to one's sexuality, to a particular social or ethnic group, or
>even in relation to other species or the environment."

>They laud the new social movements which organize quests "to satisfy
>individual needs and desires." The postmodern movements are
>multicultural in scope, involving people of color, Indian movements and
>religious people all organized around issues of culture. "If socialism is
>to be a part of this process," they say, "it will assume many forms. This
>is why we speak of postmodern socialisms." As the left searches for new
>directions and footholds, the book, more manifesto than analysis, makes an
>interesting contribution to the debate.

>** End of text from cdp:nacla.report **

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