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Thursday, 4 September 2008

Pilgrimage to Rome with Bishop Martyn

I am planning on attending the pilgrimage to Rome 17-24 July with Bishop Martyn. Are there any other readers here who may be going? It is eight days for £745. It looks to be a good pilgrimage as I received my packet today in the post and my wonderful wife said I could go! If you are planning on going, please leave a comment.

Fr. Hunwicke SSC and What is the Mass for

Yesterday Fr. Hunwicke SSC began a discussion on his blog about the Eucharist as Sacrifice. The Eucharist as the Christian Sacrifice is in the long tradition of how the Church has described what the Mass is for. In my research in Andrewes over the past few years, I was pleasantly surprised how historically Catholic Andrewes' understanding of what the main purpose of the Mass is about. Fr. Hunwicke's point about the Eucharist being first and foremost a Sacrifice and only then is it a communication of the Sacrifice is right in line with Andrewes' thinking who connects the Eucharistic offering with the Peace Offering in Leviticus 3. The Peace Offering was a sacrifice where the worshippers were required to eat of the Sacrificial offering whereas in other sacrificial rites they were not required to eat of it. The Sacrifice is the centrality of the Eucharistic celebration whereby we come to receive that which we have offered and is our peace with God.

What I found most delightful in my research of Andrewes, who relied heavily upon the Eastern Fathers, was the fact that the Eucharistic Sacrifice was indeed propitiatory. That has come out very clear in my research that was denied primarily by Reformers such as Luther. Fr. Hunwicke writes,
But the centrality of Sacrifice, in the last resort, is more important than the worship or reception of the Sacramental Christ. I hesitate to blunder carelessly and over-simplistically around in so great a mystery; it is certainly true that both ....and is more important than either ... or. But, to be simple and crude, the Eucharist is firstly a sacrifice; only when we have said this do we go on to say that it is (we can't get away from the terminology of our Jewish roots here) a communion sacrifice. In the last resort, the Lord's Body and Blood are present substantialiter et realiter upon our altars primarily to be the propitiatory sacrifice which (since the first Holy Week) replaces the the Temple cult; secondarily, to be received so that Christ's Body and Blood can (Dr Pusey's banned sermon citing a great crop of Eastern Fathers is good on this) be commingled with ours; thirdly, to be adored.
I would be interested to know from any Anglican readers why any of this sort of language or theology would take away from the One offering of Christ and what this theology means in light of our Eucharistic prayers particularly found in Common Worship.

Wednesday, 3 September 2008

FiF National Assembly Accommodation

I am looking into finding some accommodation for the National Assembly on 10-11 October. I will be coming down to London on Friday and will be leaving Saturday evening to come back to Durham. If anyone knows of any place that is reasonable or a reader who lives close to central London that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Tuesday, 2 September 2008

Pope Benedict XVI: The Reality of Evil

"It Is Not 'Optional' for Christians to Take Up the Cross"CASTEL GANDOLFO, Italy, AUG. 31, 2008 (Zenit.org).- Here is a translation of the address Benedict XVI delivered today before reciting the midday Angelus with several thousand people gathered in the courtyard of the papal summer residence at Castel Gandolfo.

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Dear Brothers and Sisters!

Today, too, the apostle Peter is in the foreground of the Gospel reading. But while last Sunday we admired his straightforward faith in Jesus, whom he proclaimed Messiah and Son of God, this time, in the episode that immediately follows, he displays a faith that is still immature and too much influenced by the “mentality of this world†(cf. Romans 12:2).

When, in fact, Jesus begins to speak openly about the fate that awaits him in Jerusalem, when he says that he must suffer much, be killed and rise again, Peter protests, saying: “God forbid, Lord! No such thing shall ever happen to you†(Matthew 16:22).

It is evident that the Master and the disciple follow two opposed ways of thinking. Peter, according to a human logic, is convinced that God would never allow his Son to end his mission dying on the cross. Jesus, on the contrary, knows that the Father, in his great love for men, sent him to give his life for them, and if this means the passion and the cross, it is right that such should happen.

On the other hand, he knows that the resurrection will be the last word. Peter’s protest, though spoken in good faith and out of sincere love of the Master, sounds to Jesus like temptation, an invitation to save himself, while it is only in losing his life that his life will be returned to him eternally for all of us.

If to save us the Son of God had to suffer and die crucified, it certainly was not because of a cruel design of the heavenly Father. The cause of it is the gravity of the sickness of which he must cure us: an evil so serious and deadly that it will require all of his blood. In fact, it is with his death and resurrection that Jesus defeated sin and death, reestablishing the lordship of God.

But the battle is not over: Evil exists and resists in every generation, even in our own. What are the horrors of war, violence visited on the innocent, the misery and injustice that persecutes the weak, if not the opposition of evil to the Kingdom of God? And how does one respond to such evil if not with the unarmed love that defeats hatred, life that does not fear death? This is the mysterious power that Jesus used at the cost of not being understood and of being abandoned by many of his followers.

Dear brothers and sisters, to complete the work of salvation, the Redeemer continues to draw to himself and his mission men and women who are ready to take up the cross and follow him. Just as with Christ, it is not “optional†for Christians to take up the cross; it is rather a mission to be embraced out of love.

In our present world, where the forces that divide and destroy seem to prevail, Christ does not cease to propose his clear invitation to all: Whosoever wants to be my disciple, he must renounce his selfishness and carry the cross with me.

Let us invoke of the Holy Virgin, who was the first to follow Jesus and followed him to the way of the cross. May she help us to follow the Lord with decisiveness so as to experience from this point on, and in trial too, the glory of the resurrection.

[Following the Angelus the Pope said the following:]

In recent weeks the news has reported the growth in the episodes of irregular immigration in Africa. It is not rare that crossing the Mediterranean toward the European continent -- which is seen as a place of hope to escape adverse and often unbearable conditions -- ends in tragedy; what happened a few days ago seemed to surpass previous incidents in terms of the number of victims.

Migration is a phenomenon that has been present from the dawn of human history, and it has always, for this reason, characterized the relations between peoples and nations. The emergency that migration has become in our times, nevertheless, calls out to us and, while it solicits our solidarity, demands, at the same time, effective political answers.

I know that many regional, national, and international institutions are occupying themselves with the question of irregular migration: I applaud them and encourage them to continue this meritorious work with a sense of responsibility and humanitarian spirit. The countries of origin must also show a sense of responsibility not only because it is a matter of their own citizens, but also to remove the causes of irregular migration and cut off at the root all of the forms of criminality that are linked to these causes.

For their part, European countries, and all other countries that are the destination of immigration, are called to, among other things, develop through consensus initiatives and structures that continue to adapt themselves to the needs of irregular migrants. The latter must be made aware, on the one hand, of the value of their own lives, which are a singular good, always precious, that should be safeguarded in the face of the grave risks that the pursuit of better situations exposes them to and, on the other hand, the duty of legality that is imposed on all.

As the [Pope], I feel a profound obligation to recall everyone’s attention to this problem and to ask for the generous cooperation of individuals and institutions to deal with it and to find solutions. May the Lord accompany us and make our efforts fruitful!

[Translation by Joseph G. Trabbic]

[Then the Holy Father greeted the people in several languages. In English, he said:]

I am happy to greet all the English-speaking pilgrims and visitors present for this Angelus prayer. In today’s Gospel, Jesus reveals to his disciples his coming passion, death and resurrection. He also teaches us that, to follow him, we too must enter into the mystery of the cross. Faithful obedience to God and loving service of our neighbour do not always come easily. But to embrace the cross of Christ is to share in his victory. May the Lord keep us in his love! I wish you all a pleasant stay in Castel Gandolfo and Rome, and a blessed Sunday!

© Copyright 2008 -- Libreria Editrice Vaticana

Monday, 1 September 2008

Who Defines the Community?

To continue on with the dialogue in the blogging world that is hopeful of a 'New Oxford Movement' there seems to be a bit more reality that needs to be weighed up. I came to believe in the necessity of bishops from theological research and study about 9 years ago and through many hours of reflection and de-programming of Protestant presuppositions and frameworks for reading the Bible. I remain on that journey. That reflection has not only allowed for my journey into the Catholic faith to blossom but it has also helped me to view the Church as a gift that does not define herself locally or nationally. The Church receives the gift of revelation as a grace from God just as we receive the gift of the sacraments from outside ourselves. Neither the Sacraments nor the Church are defined by those who have received them.

The above is where we are coming into so many problems in the Anglican church and any 'movement' that does not recognise who defines the gathered community will create a barrier to Christ rather than being the sacramental community that carries forward that which she has received. Grace is something that comes from outside as an objective reality given as a gift to us by God. The community of faith is the same. That means, we are not the author of sacraments nor are we the author of the community but God is. So, how are we to think about a 'New Oxford Movement' in light of our being a community that is not self-defined?

I believe the answer lies in the ultimate goal of any 'movement' that is established. There is nothing more frustrating than having journeyed down a road that promised a fantastic scenery with all the beauty one could imagine only to find out that the road ended in a cul de sac. The Church is not a community who thinks up ideas and gets others to join along in the party. Benedict XVI said it so well.
The Church will be all the more the homeland for man's heart, the more we listen to God and the more what comes from him is of central importance in her: his Word and the sacraments he has given us. The obedience of all toward him is the guarantee of our freedom.
What assures us that we are not following human opinions? My answer is that a church without authority and authenticity as a community defined from outside is no journey to be on in the end. The result is that we end up seeing a row of what may be beautiful houses and surroundings that actually are placed around a cul de sac that offers no way forward on the journey of faith. What will ensure Christian unity to grow deeper in the knowledge of and love for the deposit of faith given to the Body of Christ? I know it has something to do with the necessity of bishops!

Saturday, 30 August 2008

Eucharistic and Ecclesial Realism: The Forgotten Theology of Our Time

Reading through some responses from the ongoing discussion about how a 'New Oxford Movement' needs to take shape reminded me of what many seem to have lost sight of. The best outworking of what I am thinking about is found in the writings of Henri Cardinal de Lubac, SJ. It has to do with our being grounded in and living out the Eucharistic and Ecclesial realism discussed in his writings. These two support one another and guarantee the other as the Church incarnates the faith in the lives of her members. The issues that we are struggling through with regards to Holy Order and morality are clear signs that we have lost our way here. Had we kept these two as the centre of our life as a Church and living these out in an incarnational way as a living sacrament to the world, how different would things be?

When we allow for anything other than the 'real presence' to be an understanding of Christ in the Eucharist we lose the foundational reality of the Church as the mystical body since the two are bound together in their relationship. How can the Church be built up by something that is not real but only a symbol of the One whose body and blood the elements are meant to become? What happens is that our theology of the Church evaporates into empty formulations that does not allow for the Church to remain bound together in any age where this occurs. Our loss of Eucharistic realism that in turn negatively effects our ecclesial realism results in what we have before us that is dividing the Church of this age. The result is a hallow church. If there is not a real physical union of Christ in the sacrament how can we maintain any sort of an ecclesial realism? As Cardinal de Lubac would say, 'It is a real presence because it makes real.'

If my small brain has understood this correctly then the ecclesial direction of the Catholic Anglicans could very well be a crucial deciding factor in the ecclesial shape of a 'New Oxford Movement.' Here is a question for discussion: What does our Eucharistic realism, i.e. 'real presence', say to our faith with regards to our ecclesial realism? In other words, what does our faith in the 'real presence' have to do with our faith in the ecclesial body? Could Anglo-Catholicism be charged with holding to a 'real' view of presence but only a 'symbolical' view of the Church?

Friday, 29 August 2008

A New Oxford Movement: Newman or Keble?

Due to the recent happenings at General Synod and Lambeth many bloggers have taken up the challenge of Cardinal Kasper's address where he asked if Anglicanism perhaps could have a future of rediscovering itself within an 'Oxford Movement' catholicity. What is obvious to me from his address is that he was clear that we are proving ourselves to be Protestant and Reformed and not Catholic by our recent decisions and non-Catholic directions. In my opinion the question that we are looking at is the actual shape of a 'New Oxford Movement' and how this develops or not develops.

There are some who would NOT consider it advantageous for them to 'cross the Tiber' in any shape or form for various reasons. There are some who would happily just go at it alone and make a quick swim as it has been described. There are some who would look to making a move as a group; some with people and some without. These are indeed troubled waters that we are all swimming in at the moment but we are never without hope or in despair. Discernment through godly wisdom and prayer is what is needed by all whether they be leading in one direction or another or simply following those who lead.

It is on account of the question above that I have interest in hearing from my many readers as to your opinions and thoughts about where you find yourself in these times. For obvious reasons, it is completely understandable if those who are willing to comment do so anonymously about where they would place their hopes. If you do leave an opinion of where you are and you do so anonymously, I would be interested if you are laity or clergy.

Why do I ask this? Well, there is a lot at stake and a lot of work to be done with regards to mission and the future of the faith in our lands. As I understand things it seems to me that a Catholic realignment is under way to bring about unification of the Church and to heal the schism of the Protestant Reformation. Others would disagree and accuse me of thinking that Cranmer, Ridley and Latimer died for nothing. Those times were nothing like the present and a lot of reforms have taken place for all. At the end of the day, Catholic Anglicans need to answer the question of whether or not they understand their catholicity in terms of unity with the Holy See. How that happens and when may be different for many. But is any sort of a 'New Oxford Movement' ultimately about Keble or Newman?

In addition to the provided space here to think out loud there are numerous historical verities to take into consideration; not least the Second Vatican Council and ARCIC. These are new developments that neither Keble or Newman had in the equation that brought them to their different conclusions. These historical additions to the present situation need interpreting in the present without rejecting the hermeneutical and ecclesiological issues faced by Newman and Keble. I hope many will come here to comment and think theologically with all of us as we seek to be faithful to Christ our Shepherd and labour to build up his one holy, Catholic and apostolic Church.

See Fr. Ed Tomlinson here.

See Fr. Lee Kenyon here.

Thursday, 28 August 2008

England and Wales Losing Catholic Identity

This story is found at the Catholic Herald web site. The full text 'fit for mission?' can be found at the link provided.
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The Church in England and Wales is losing its Catholic identity, a senior bishop said this week.

Bishop Patrick O'Donoghue of Lancaster made the claim in a 92-page document highly critical of the direction of the Church in the past 40 years The document, described by several parish priests as "dynamite", addresses declining vocations, falling Mass attendance and the future of the Church.

The loss of Catholic identity stems from the rejection of Church teaching coupled with a wide-spread misinterpretation of the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, the document said.

The bishop challenged both the laity and clergy to re-examine what it means to be Catholic and to return to the "sources of our Catholic identity".

Bishop O'Donoghue wrote: "I am convinced that if we are to wake from the weariness that is taking hold of the Church in this country we must return to the sources of our Catholic identity and mission to renew our strength and vitality.

"In this way we will through the grace of the Holy Spirit be in a position to counter the negative and constraining influence of secularism and hedonism that is currently dominating our society."

The document, entitled Fit for Mission? Church was published on Wednesday and comes on the heels of Fit for Mission? Schools which called for stronger Catholic ethos in diocesan schools and won high praise from the Vatican.

Written for the diocese but also for "all Catholics who love the Church and care deeply about the future of Catholicism", it marks the end of Bishop O'Donoghue's 16-month diocesan review.

It began by asking painful questions about declining Mass attendance, a falling rate of Catholic marriages and baptisms, and lack of vocations and energy in the Church. It concluded that the Church had distanced itself from the true intentions of the Second Vatican Council and the tradition of the Church.

Bishop O'Donoghue, 74, said: "Though we are strengthened and healed by the Lord through his Word and Sacraments, the majority of us are not responding to Our Lord's call to go out on his mission of hope. In particular, mission in the parishes with families and young people are undeveloped and under developed with a few exceptions. The passion to serve the Lord is noticeably absent in many cases. There seems to be at times a tiredness and reticence to preach the Gospel.

"One of the reasons why we are 'gathered but not sent' is due to a lack of confidence and knowledge of the Catholic faith. This results from a lack of ongoing formation and trained lay catechists and prayer... our Church often seems inward looking, self-involved and detached from everyday life of our wider communities.

"It appears that many of us have forgotten the basic truth about the nature of the Church, that we have been gathered as a people of God not to be served but rather to serve God and each other, especially the weak and the poor."

In a step-by-step analysis of the problems and successes of the Second Vatican Council, document by document, Bishop O'Donoghue identified the need for a renewal in the Church principally through a reaffirmation of faith, obedience to the bishops in communion with the Pope, sound doctrine and sound liturgy.

The bishop wrote: "As I have reflected on the great issues facing this generation in the life of the Church, I have become more and more convinced that the answers are to be found through a prayerful, faithful and creative engagement with the Deposit of Faith presented in the documents of the Second Vatican Council and its great summary, the Catechism of the Catholic Church."

The bishop criticised Catholics who have strayed away from Church teaching in the name of the Second Vatican Council.

He said: "We have all witnessed with alarm many who profess to be Catholics disavowing the Church's teaching authority, particularly that of the Pope and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, dismissing apostolic traditions and the doctrines of the Fathers and giving the place of honour to the fashionable opinions of society."

Quoting the theologian Henri de Lubac, he said that in order to truly implement the Second Vatican Council "it is necessary for all of us to re-gain a Catholic sense of balance between change and continuity through maintaining the Catholic understanding of the Church which in 'practice is a continuous tradition and a living present authority'."

The first half deals with questions of direction and identity while the second half deals with the Council. In the section entitled "Have we forgotten what it is to be Catholic?" Bishop O'Donoghue said that people who deliberately missed Mass on Sunday, denied sin and did not go to Confession were not fully Catholic.

"Being 'Catholic' has the definite meaning of embracing the totality of Christ as he expresses Himself through His Catholic Church. The opposite of being Catholic would be to set ourselves as judges of the faith of the Church, to pick and choose what takes our fancy and reject what we dislike," he said.

He criticised the ascendancy of "privatised" faith which focused too much "on the subjective personal experience of faith" and overrides the "objective, revealed truth of the Church".

Justice and peace, he said, are not more important than the Mass, and the Church's teaching on the sanctity of life is not optional.

Bishop O'Donoghue insisted that the Eucharist had to be at the centre of the faith and that adoration should be encouraged. He also argued for closer adherence to Canon Law, and a renewed focus on salvation and vocations as well as use of the Catechism.

In the second half of the document the bishop argued that undue focus has been given to a man-centred interpretation of the Council, which led to popular and incorrect interpretations never intended by the Council Fathers.

Bishop O'Donoghue said: "The Council sought to give primacy to God in its proceedings, and not primacy to man as many popular interpretations have sought to argue through giving emphasis to the novelty of the Pastoral Constitution on the Modern World."

The bishop also laid the part of the blame on the bishops themselves for delegating their responsibilities to committees of lay people.

He said that agencies and departments of the bishops' conference were acting autonomously - but did not always fully uphold Church teaching in their dealings with secular authorities. The structures of the conference were preventing bishops from speaking individually on matters of importance to the church and society, he said.

He also said that the failure of bishops to reach agreement on issues had often resulted in inadequate statements or interventions instead of the witness that was "so urgently needed".

Bishop O'Donoghue said he particularly wanted to register his "disappointment" that the bishops failed to produce a "collegial response to the government's legislation on same-sex adoption" threatening Catholic adoption agencies with closure unless they agree to assess homosexual couples as potential adoptive parents.

"The problem of attempting to arrive at a consensus among bishop with sometimes divergent views is that episcopal conference statements and documents have a tendency to be often flat and safe at a time at a time when we need passionate and courageous public statements that dare to speak the full truth in love," he said.

Principles of Evangelical Catholicism for the New Oxford Movement

The following principles of Evangelical Catholicism are from Fr. Jay Scott Newman who is a parish priest in the Catholic Church in Greenville, SC in America. These principles are very valuable as principles of mission when thinking about a Catholic way forward for Anglo-Catholics in the C of E. There is obviously the issue in principle two with our bishops not being in communion with the Holy See in Rome but it could be used as a prayer and an ideal for Catholic Anglicans as we move forward in mission and restore real ecumenical dialogue with the Holy See. These belong to Fr. Newman so I republish them as they are and these principles can be adjusted as needed for mission in England.

Fr. Jones SSC at St. Peter's London Docks reminds us of how important it is to set forth a positive theological mission statement about who we ARE and not who we ARE NOT. The positive aspect about the Catholic movement in the C of E needs to be laid out in one mission statement as the way we should proceed for corporate unity amongst Catholic Anglicans with a view to seeing the western Church united. It is my view that we need to be an example to the world of Catholic Anglicans about how best to go about this. Unity, theology, and movement towards reunion should be the aim as far as I understand it. Any thoughts on Fr. Newman's principles? They have been here before and I bring them out again since the Anglo-Catholic blogosphere is talking about the Catholic mission in the C of E once again.

The Principles of Evangelical Catholicism

1. The Lord Jesus Christ is the crucified and risen Savior of all mankind, and no human person can fully understand his life or find his dignity and destiny apart from a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus. It is not enough to know who Jesus is; we must know Jesus.

2. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is divine revelation, not human wisdom, and the Gospel is given to us in Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition which together constitute a single divine deposit of faith transmitted authentically and authoritatively by the Bishops in full communion with the Bishop of Rome. We must surrender our private judgments in all matters of faith and morals to the sacred teaching authority of the Church’s Magisterium if we are to receive the whole Gospel.

3. The seven Sacraments of the New Covenant are divinely instituted instruments of grace given to the Church as the ordinary means of sanctification for believers. Receiving the Sacraments regularly and worthily is essential to the life of grace, and for this reason, faithful attendance at Sunday Mass every week (serious illness and necessary work aside) and regular Confession of sins are absolutely required for a life of authentic discipleship.

4. Through Word and Sacrament we are drawn by grace into a transforming union with the Lord Jesus, and having been justified by faith we are called to sanctification and equipped by the Holy Spirit for the good works of the new creation. We must, therefore, learn to live as faithful disciples and to reject whatever is contrary to the Gospel, which is the Good News of the Father’s mercy and love revealed in the life, death, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

5. The sacred liturgy, through which the seven Sacraments are celebrated and the Hours of praise are prayed, makes present to us the saving mysteries of the Lord Jesus. The liturgy must therefore be celebrated in such a way that the truth of the Gospel, the beauty of sacred music, the dignity of ritual form, the solemnity of divine worship, and the fellowship of the baptized assembled to pray are kept together in organic unity.

6. Receiving the Sacraments without receiving the Gospel leads to superstition rather than living faith, and the Church must therefore take great care to ensure that those who receive the Sacraments also receive the Gospel in its integrity and entirety. Consequently, before Baptism, Confirmation, Holy Communion, and Marriage are administered, there must be in those who request these Sacraments clear evidence of knowledge of the Gospel and a serious intention to live the Christian life.

7. Being a follower of Christ requires moving from being a Church member by convention to a Christian disciple by conviction. This transformation demands that we consciously accept the Gospel as the measure of our entire lives, rather than attempting to measure the Gospel by our experience. Personal knowledge of and devotion to Sacred Scripture is necessary for this transformation to occur through the obedience of faith, and there is no substitute for personal knowledge of the Bible. Ignorance of the Scriptures is ignorance of Christ.

8. All the baptized are sent in the Great Commission to be witnesses of Christ to others and must be equipped by the Church to teach the Gospel in word and deed. An essential dimension of true discipleship is the willingness to invite others to follow the Lord Jesus and the readiness to explain His Gospel.


What I find crucial is the need for discipleship in the Catholic faith through a reintroducing of catechesis to all the faithful in some fashion. How this can creatively happen outside of the liturgy is open for discussion. The fact that the FAITH needs teaching to our people is something that should be obvious. We need to move beyond milk to solid food so that the people can defend their faith with vigour.

Broadband Headaches

To all of my UK readers, I am thinking of changing my ISP from BT to either o2 or Be. BT has been one headache after another and the speed is rubbish most of the time. Any recommendations for either provider I'm looking at? Thanks in advance.

An Example of Church by Democracy

Over at Thinking Anglicans yesterday was a story about the leading of the House of Bishops in the Church of England on the issue of Women in the Episcopacy. This story, which provids the number crunching, projections for 2010, and all sorts of political maneuvering going on behind the scenes to get this through with as little to no provision possible, is a clear example of what I posted below on how the Church is NOT a democracy. This is ONE example why I wrote the post. Read the story, and look at the number crunching going on and see why I think deciding serious theological issues such as this one in the manner that we are approaching it lacks any theological integrity at all. The Synod is made up of some people who have little to no idea of the theological reasons why those of us who oppose this novelty take issue with it and the manner it is being decided. And these very same people are determining for themselves, by 75% of this particular majority, what Holy Order is to be for the entire C of E. When you think about it, it is unthinkable.

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Read the entire story at Thinking Anglicans

The net effect of all this is that the view of the overwhelming majority of the House of Bishops was accepted by the whole synod. The recent letter from fourteen traditionalist Anglo-Catholic bishops only five of whom have votes in General Synod, highlighted that the House of Laity vote was below the two-thirds level that will be needed for final approval of the women bishops legislation. It also pointed to close voting on the amendment offered by the Bishop of Ripon & Leeds as another indicator of less than overwhelming support for legislation without “new structuresâ€.

However, the final approval vote will not occur in the life of this Synod, but only after new elections have been held in 2010. This issue may well dominate those elections. The House of Bishops, to whom the letter writers are explicitly appealing, does not meet again until October. By that time, the Legislative Drafting Group should be halfway through its task of preparing a draft for the General Synod to consider in February. General Synod has clearly instructed the group to do so only on the basis of a statutory code of practice. The strength of support for that in the House of Bishops is now clearly on the record.

Note: Sheffield and Truro were vacant sees at the time of the vote, and there were six bishops who were either not present or who never voted at all (Coventry, Chester, Sodor & Man, Ely, Salisbury and Leicester).

Tuesday, 26 August 2008

Fr. Hunwicke SSC at 'Liturgical Notes' Writes a Letter

Dear *******
I do not question your sincerity. I know I have sincere fellow-Anglicans whose consciences teach them that the ordination of women to sacerdotal ministries is so profoundly and structurally bound up with the deepest core dogmas and principles of the Christian Faith, that they are compelled to introduce it into the Church of England, even though it will prove gravely divisive within these provinces; even though it will render unattainable, for as long as can be humanly foreseen, unity with the ancient Churches of East and West which claim the allegiance of more than three quarters of the world's Christians.

Indeed, I think I even understand your belief that, in the last resort, dogma is so much more important than charity that the distress of your fellow-Anglicans is of secondary importance to the doctrinal necessity of ordaining women. Truth is, indeed, quite a trump card, if one can be quite sure that one possesses it.

And I understand the passionate and deeply held conscientious conviction that the ordination of women is an issue so radically integral to your very concept of what it means to be 'in Christ' that you consider the visible unity of the Body of Christ a prize worth surrendering in order to secure it. At the same time, I trust and pray that you and your friends may understand my position: that the unity of Christ's Body the Church Universal is a Gospel imperative rooted in the nature of the Blessed Trinity itself (John 17; Ephesians) as well as in prudential considerations of witness and mission.

After the vote of General Synod, it seemed right to reflect for a while and, in particular, to await the reactions of the Great Churches of West and East which articulate diachronically as well as synchronically the Tradition of the overwhelming majority of Christians in the overwhelming majority of Christian generations. These reactions are now to hand, and I presume you are familiar with those of them that were expressed at Lambeth.

I trust that those who have believed it necessary, for deeply and passionately held reasons, to walk away from their fellow Christians (both within and beyond these two provinces) and to choose paths of increased and increasing disunity in order to secure their own Pearl of Great Price, will understand that we also have our own Pearl, which we regard as taking priority over the mere existence, unity, stability, life, structures, and policies of the Church of England.
In Domino,
John


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