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(BBC) Interesting General David Petraeus says Al-Queda may already be following Obama's plan of shifting resources from Iraq to Afghanistan  [image] (56)
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jcooli09 2008-07-20 09:02:49 AM  
If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

 
Mordant [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 09:08:36 AM  
Does this mean we'll soon have yet another reason to attack Iran ?

 
HowlingFrog [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 10:46:05 AM  
I guess it's time for another Osama video to back up Petraeus' statement.
Roll 'em.

 
austin_millbarge 2008-07-20 11:00:10 AM  
Since that's where they came from originally anyway.

 
wal9000 2008-07-20 11:00:24 AM  
Is this an Obama/Osama joke? I can't quite tell.

 
vicejay [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 11:00:31 AM  
Hey, I read somewhere that steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F, and that jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F.

 
Dear Jerk 2008-07-20 11:00:43 AM  
Hey! This may be the face-saving ploy we've been groping for. Sounds good.

 
Triaxis 2008-07-20 11:01:36 AM  
jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

Just wow.. what an idiot.

 
seminole87 2008-07-20 11:01:47 AM  
vicejay: Hey, I read somewhere that steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F, and that jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F.

or so they would have you believe ...

 
DistendedPendulusFrenulum 2008-07-20 11:02:47 AM  
1. Pretty funny headline!

2. This may be a post hoc ergo propter analysis, but Petraeus does seem more competent than his predecessors

.

 
Pillager 2008-07-20 11:04:10 AM  
Triaxis: jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

Just wow.. what an idiot.


I know.

I look forward to Obama replacing him.

 
skinink 2008-07-20 11:06:50 AM  
I've been wondering this for awhile, but does it seem like Al-Quaeda is the only boogeyman out there they keep mentioning? I mean, the way I keep reading that America is hated worldwide, you'd think we'd hear about the other groups that hate us. Or I guess mentioning Al-Quaeda is just the easy Pavlovian way to get a response from us, without really wondering if they are still that potent compared to other groups not well known by the public yet.

 
ChewbaccaJones 2008-07-20 11:07:44 AM  
jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

You might want to read the article. Then you would know that the headline was being cute and had nothing to do with Obama or the fantastical opinions of President Backrub McFistpumper.

 
PrettyImportant2 [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 11:10:50 AM  
Subby should apply for a job at Fox News. -1

 
Sgt Otter [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 11:15:18 AM  
jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

He seems like a decent enough guy, but I seriously wonder how the hell he earned a Bronze Star for Valor as a two-star DIVISION COMMANDER.

That seems about as likely as calling Microsoft for tech support and having Bill Gates answer the phone.

 
AnnoyingKidNextDoor 2008-07-20 11:16:52 AM  
Way to spell the turrists' name wrong failRepublicanConservativeNeo-Nazibatmanpinkocommunistsupervillanallaroundthewat chtowerdoucheb agmitter.

 
lajimi [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 11:20:00 AM  
He said ALL THAT and we didn't even see Dumbya's lips move.

/Dance little puppet....DANCE!

 
shower_in_my_socks [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 11:20:39 AM  
So then... Al Qaeda is packing up and going home?

Obama says "let's leave Iraq" and Al Qaeda says "ok"?

/Obama really is magic
//G08BAMA!

 
dlcreed 2008-07-20 11:23:28 AM  
Excellent news. They are much easier to kill in Afghanistan.

 
shackelford 2008-07-20 11:26:02 AM  
Sounds like this plan will work perfectly when Obama becomes our next president. I welcome our new muslim-ish overlord

 
shower_in_my_socks [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 11:28:05 AM  
skinink: I've been wondering this for awhile, but does it seem like Al-Quaeda is the only boogeyman out there they keep mentioning? I mean, the way I keep reading that America is hated worldwide, you'd think we'd hear about the other groups that hate us. Or I guess mentioning Al-Quaeda is just the easy Pavlovian way to get a response from us, without really wondering if they are still that potent compared to other groups not well known by the public yet.

I agree. The West will undoubtedly be hit at some point by a large-scale attack that has nothing to do with Al Qaeda, and we'll all be like "who?" and the White House will be all "we think it's Al Qaeda" and then it'll turn out to be some group from Thailand that blaims us for the tsunami and we'll be all "whaaa?"

And then we'll find out that some general two years ago warned Congress about the "Thai Tsumani Liberation Front," but they were all "whatevs" and went back to voting to designate July 2007 as National Watermelon Month.

/I don't know why I chose to answer this like I'm a member of Paris Hilton's entourage

 
Magorn 2008-07-20 11:30:33 AM  
jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

But don't worry, the White House is soon to announce "Operation Squeeze on That End of the Balloon Really Hard" which should REALLY clamp down on the Afghan Al-Qeada presence

 
jeremycook2.0 2008-07-20 11:31:38 AM  
When Petraeus took over in Iraq he was stationed at Ft. Campbell. Ft. Campbell is in Kentucky... Coincidence?

 
Magorn 2008-07-20 11:38:36 AM  
Sgt Otter: jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

He seems like a decent enough guy, but I seriously wonder how the hell he earned a Bronze Star for Valor as a two-star DIVISION COMMANDER.

That seems about as likely as calling Microsoft for tech support and having Bill Gates answer the phone.


I heard some muted rumblings from soldiers that Petraeus is kinda like Val Kilmer's Character in LA Confidential: Very smart but very bookish and political and without any combat experience before Iraq.

This guy claims the BSV citation is fraudulent (new window) comparing the army citation to the accounts of an embedded journalist, but consider the source and the tone of the article and draw your own conclusions

 
Sgt Otter [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 11:54:15 AM  
Magorn: Sgt Otter: jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

He seems like a decent enough guy, but I seriously wonder how the hell he earned a Bronze Star for Valor as a two-star DIVISION COMMANDER.

That seems about as likely as calling Microsoft for tech support and having Bill Gates answer the phone.

I heard some muted rumblings from soldiers that Petraeus is kinda like Val Kilmer's Character in LA Confidential: Very smart but very bookish and political and without any combat experience before Iraq.

This guy claims the BSV citation is fraudulent (new window) comparing the army citation to the accounts of an embedded journalist, but consider the source and the tone of the article and draw your own conclusions


That was Guy Pearce ;).

Yeah, he missed out on Vietnam and the first Gulf War, and his first actual combat was as a two-star, as the Division Commander of the 101st Airborne.

When I noticed he had a BSV, I assumed he earned it as a Platoon Leader (Lieutenant) or as a Company Commander (Captain).

As a battalion commander (Lieutenant Colonel), it would be suspect, but not something I would publicly question.

As a brigade commander (Colonel), yeah, definitely bullshiat.

As a division commander, (Major General) it's beyond absurd. The Republican Guard would have had to completely overran the 101st Airborne, which is something I seemed to have missed on the news.

 
re-elect_jimmy_carter 2008-07-20 12:07:30 PM  
jcooli09: If Petraeus is saying it, it came from the White House.

instapunk.com

 
Defektiv 2008-07-20 12:10:21 PM  
"uhh.. the fight was never really in afghanistan.. but, umm.. now it is.. and stuff. so yeah.. we were like, umm.. right all along. you owe us an apology."

 
Get Lost 2008-07-20 12:13:54 PM  
If Afghanistan is declared a real war. Does that mean the Canadian pretards there, get to go home? Canadian peace keepers shooting and killing and raping.

/Cartman you're a fat ass.

 
2wheeljunkie [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 12:16:20 PM  
austin_millbarge: Since that's where they came from originally anyway.

Not Al Qaeda in Iraq. AQ in Iraq was an insurgent group that started using the name to instill fear.

 
Alleyoop 2008-07-20 12:39:04 PM  
"Here's the target area."

"That's Minnesota, sir."

www.movieactors.com

"Damn it, man, that's the genius of my plan. Why go over there to fight? We can do it right here at home, and get in some good fishing while we're at it."

"Sir, the enemy is over there."

"Then we'll fly them over here. Their families too. We'll teach them to skate... Do I have to think of everything?"

 
Jarhead_h 2008-07-20 12:42:04 PM  
General David Petraeus says Al-Queda may already be following Obama's plan of shifting resources from Iraq to Afghanistan

Just a thought, but it might not be his plan(either of them).

And it can't be said enough: Guy Pearce was in L.A. Confidential. The closest Kilmer has ever come to an L.A. Confidential type flick would be HEAT, followed by Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang.

 
mreuther 2008-07-20 12:44:54 PM  
Oh, great. So now they know that we know that they know that we know that they know we are moving.

Thanks, General Betray-us. Why do you hate America?

 
gruffgoat 2008-07-20 01:25:54 PM  
Ok, is the Al-Queda spelling a new farkism?

 
airbornbrian 2008-07-20 01:40:11 PM  
This just in: There is no Al Qaeda

 
Control_this [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 02:05:21 PM  
I live in Atlanta and I'm pretty sure the Mexican Al Qaeda here has shifted from graffiti on sidewalks to graffiti on the sides of trucks.

 
Bucky Katt 2008-07-20 02:19:14 PM  
The Taliban are the real problem in Afghanistan and Bush allowed them to reform. Now Petraeus is intervening in electoral politics again lending aid and comfort to partisan trolls everywhere. Talk about shameless. As a bonus, McCain will now bleat that he's been right all along.

 
apeiron242 2008-07-20 02:28:34 PM  
gruffgoat: Ok, is the Al-Queda spelling a new farkism?

There are multiple spellings of AQ, it depends on who is talking.

airbornbrian: This just in: There is no Al Qaeda

Someone should tell Al Qaeuda that. They seem to think they exist.

 
EyeballKid 2008-07-20 02:33:40 PM  
It's only noteworthy because he said it while Bush was drinking a glass of water.

 
Lt. Cheese Weasel 2008-07-20 02:56:26 PM  
airbornbrian: This just in: There is no Al Qaeda

Returning to the policies of Bill Clinton won't help us now.

 
gruffgoat 2008-07-20 03:04:20 PM  
apeiron242: gruffgoat: Ok, is the Al-Queda spelling a new farkism?

There are multiple spellings of AQ, it depends on who is talking.


ahh, I see - it's just that al-queda sounds like something I ought to be eating with a chalupa and Corona Light.

 
F42 2008-07-20 04:15:27 PM  
This is what you get for failing to secure the place before moving to Iraq.

By gods, you left the CANADIANS in charge of the war zone! What did you think you happen?

 
F42 2008-07-20 04:25:09 PM  
Bucky Katt: The Taliban are the real problem in Afghanistan

You sound like an 80s commie.

Don't you know that they are freedom fighters, who only wish for the right to practice their religion in peace and brotherhood? Rambo and James Bond told me so!

 
Sliding Carp [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 04:29:17 PM  
Sgt Otter: his first actual combat was as a two-star,

I thought things were set up in general in the military so that was pretty much impossible, as long as there was fighting going on somewhere for the officers to advance through?

(Serious question, BTW - any thoughts or corrections?)

 
F42 2008-07-20 04:29:54 PM  
Magorn: I heard some muted rumblings from soldiers that Petraeus is kinda like Val Kilmer's Character in LA Confidential: Very smart but very bookish and political and without any combat experience

Most officers don't see combat.
Combat is ungentlemanly.

 
F42 2008-07-20 04:31:37 PM  
Sliding Carp: I thought things were set up in general in the military so that was pretty much impossible

Maybe an superior made him do it, to prove his valor, or just to be a dick, whichever.

 
Sliding Carp [TotalFark] 2008-07-20 04:34:34 PM  
F42: Maybe an superior made him do it, to prove his valor, or just to be a dick, whichever.

No, I didn't make my point clear. I thought it was impossible to advance to an O-7 (brig. general) combat spot at all without seeing combat as a (lower ranking) unit leader.

 
Probably_From_Texas 2008-07-20 04:36:08 PM  
When did Move-on.org become Fark?

 
F42 2008-07-20 04:41:51 PM  
Sliding Carp: F42: Maybe an superior made him do it, to prove his valor, or just to be a dick, whichever.

No, I didn't make my point clear. I thought it was impossible to advance to an O-7 (brig. general) combat spot at all without seeing combat as a (lower ranking) unit leader.


You can go along time as a unit leader without seeing combat.
Cushy escort jobs, garding inside perometers, whatever.

You wouldn't get new generals in peace time if you had to see combat... not that the US has went a year without bombing some other country since I was born, but you know what I mean: Active duty does not always involve actual combat, sometimes you live in uninteresting times, and any long-lived organization will take that into account in their command structure.


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