Bartender, I'll have three beers, please. Yes, for me and, uh, my friends over there.

What a bunch of useless morons.

My question is, who let the spirits in the bar in the first place?

StoneyBologna: My question is, who let the spirits in the bar in the first place?

Apparently the "Ministers"

Pubs and bars could be forced to offer smaller glass sizes under plans to tackle binge drinking being drawn up by ministers.

The church forming legislation? Unpossible!

TFA: The largest wine glass holds 250ml - a third of a bottle of wine, meaning that a woman can drink more than the recommended daily limit in one go.

And just what the fark is wrong with that? The customer doesn't need a smaller glass to understand how many units they are consuming. You look at the drink and say "That's a big ass glass of wine. I'm about to get tanked." If the customer can't figure that out, no amount of downsizing will help. Let the people have their booze.

Oh. Bloody hell. Nevermind.

They're UK ministers. heh

What the hell is with the stupid phrase 'drink-drive'? Unless you're actually consuming liquid while steering a vehicle, this is inaccurate. You are not drinking; you have drank and you are drunk. 'Drunk driving', please, Brits.

See? Look what happend in England. First tehy took the guns, now theyre trying to take the beer.

fark THIS.

/Goes to buy a gun before they come for the beer.
//The Boston beer party will make the tea party look as wussy as it sounds.

ElLoco: Oh. Bloody hell. Nevermind.

They're UK ministers. heh

Dont let that stop you. I want to hear the rant. Let it rip. Christians are oppressing you. Tell them about it.

A pint's a pound the whole world round.

if they're making the glasses smaller, they better be making the prices proportionally smaller. That way, the drunkards don't have to spend more than they used to to get tanked.

/wants cheaper booze
//needs larger glass

Small changes like this are a small inconvenience to the average person but work toward fixing problems associated with alcohol abuse.

If you're too lazy to order a double, you've probably had enough anyways.

syrynxx: What the hell is with the stupid phrase 'drink-drive'? Unless you're actually consuming liquid while steering a vehicle, this is inaccurate. You are not drinking; you have drank and you are drunk. 'Drunk driving', please, Brits.

Your dialect has experienced different mutations than theirs has, so obviously, yours is superior.

mikaloyd: ElLoco: Oh. Bloody hell. Nevermind.

They're UK ministers. heh

Dont let that stop you. I want to hear the rant. Let it rip. Christians are oppressing you. Tell them about it.

They sure seem to be pursuing heavy influence on legislation these days. Bugger off I say.

huh

OK, England, these stories are coming out more and more often these days. What the bloody hell is going on over there, you wankers?

Maybe I'm unique, but I don't give much of a damn how "big" my drink is. If my aim is to get drunk (which it usually is, what's the point of drinking otherwise?), I just buy enough individually until I've had my fill for the evening and/or the joint closes. I fail to see how regulating the size of drinks to a standard will help such binging.

The next step will be limiting the quantity you can lawfully drink in a pub.

/hotlinked goodness

GoRedSoxGo: OK, England, these stories are coming out more and more often these days. What the bloody hell is going on over there, you wankers?

Australia gains title of the Fattest Nation on Earth with Mexico nipping at our heels barely behind us. The Nanny State laws of the UK. The Chinese, French, and Indians have become more annoying tourists (new window)...

I swear, it's like they are trying to take some flack off of us.

mikaloyd: Dont let that stop you. I want to hear the rant. Let it rip. Christians are oppressing you. Tell them about it.

Meh. I really don't care about them. I was just trying to be a wiseass and it backfired because I was too lazy to rtfa.

I'd just like to join this thread to point out that the government's recommended limits were pulled out of someone's arse.

There is absolutely no formula based on any science that yields "21 units of alcohol per week".

Incidentally, if they come up with these limits, I'll switch to absinthe just to piss the coonts off.

Just a thought, but when you order a beer at a bar in the States it's already quite a bit smaller than the pint we have over here.

And I gather from TFA that they're going to offer smaller drinks, not make them smaller. Like they are in the States.

But you know, you lot whine on about shiat you don't understand, it's ok, we understand that simple reading comprehension isn't your strong point.

Arthur the Sandwich Maker: Just a thought, but when you order a beer at a bar in the States it's already quite a bit smaller than the pint we have over here.

And I gather from TFA that they're going to offer smaller drinks, not make them smaller. Like they are in the States.

But you know, you lot whine on about shiat you don't understand, it's ok, we understand that simple reading comprehension isn't your strong point.

Yeah, your pints are imperial pints (20 oz). Our American pint is 16 oz.

Some of the bars that I frequent actually serve imperial pints.

Dinks.

vietnam called....


...they want their derogatory name back.

re-elect_jimmy_carter:

Ha! I forgot about that one. That's awful. ;D

Arthur the Sandwich Maker: Just a thought, but when you order a beer at a bar in the States it's already quite a bit smaller than the pint we have over here.

And I gather from TFA that they're going to offer smaller drinks, not make them smaller. Like they are in the States.

But you know, you lot whine on about shiat you don't understand, it's ok, we understand that simple reading comprehension isn't your strong point.

Point noted, but it's the "force bars to offer smaller drinks" that gets me wondering. Exactly why should bars be forced to offer smaller portion sizes? Should McDonald's be forced to offer smaller Big Macs? Should Marlboro be forced to offer smaller cigarettes? Should Coca-Cola be forced to offer smaller bottles of soda?

Hell, a lot of bars I go to (as well as ones I've worked at) have already been willing to pour you a smaller beer at a lower price - you've just gotta ask.

re-elect_jimmy_carter: Dinks.
vietnam called....
...they want their derogatory name back.

Spaceballs called...



...they want their little people back.

/dinklinked

So pub owners will decrease the price of each drink as well, I am sure.

/forced my ass

The largest wine glass holds 250ml - a third of a bottle of wine, meaning that a woman can drink more than the recommended daily limit in one go. The number of units - 3 to 3.5 - would put some over the driving limit.

Yes, the largest wine glass *hold* 250ml; however, as anyone who has ever ordered a glass of wine knows, they don't fill it. You need the extra room to do the "swirl/tilt/sniff" wine thing.

On a related note, and I drank a bunch of 24-ounce cans last night, and those things are DESIGNED to be shotgunned. Yeah, 40s have been around forever for people who don't give a shiat, but everything comes in a 24-ounce can now and that shiat is warm by the bottom if you're not going through 'em like hell.

Gecko Gingrich: "swirl/tilt/sniff" wine thing

sounds more like a hooker/blow thing than a wine thing...

GoRedSoxGo: OK, England, these stories are coming out more and more often these days. What the bloody hell is going on over there, you wankers?

We hate our government more and more by the day, so the media drag up more and more by the day, though can't say i've noticed an increase on fark

Bear in mind that British drinks are bigger than abroad anyway - America, Australia and most of Europe do not provide pints of beer (not the larger UK imperial pint at least), and tbh the size of wine glasses over here these days is pretty ridiculous - we've already fought off the war on the pint anyway

But but... the free market.

is responsible for portion sizes slowly increasing kind of like the proverbial frog in the pot.

Seriously restaurant portions (at least in the US) are absurd. It's no surprise the bars are starting to do the same thing.

The free market says I can decrease the price to compete, or increase the "supply" and keep the price the same. Which one hurts my profits less? Which one leads to a nation of fat asses and drunks?

/hint they're the same option
//too bad everyone else's lack of self control means I can't get a decent meal going out with out wasting money and a half a plate of food.

sluck604: Seriously restaurant portions (at least in the US) are absurd. It's no surprise the bars are starting to do the same thing.

The free market says I can decrease the price to compete, or increase the "supply" and keep the price the same. Which one hurts my profits less? Which one leads to a nation of fat asses and drunks?

The free market also says that you can compete on quality.

tarquinrainbowtrout: America...do not provide pints of beer (not the larger UK imperial pint at least)

Uhhhh...You've not been to any of the *numerous* Irish/Scottish/English pubs over here have you?

There is no hope left for places like Britain, but i just want you American Farkers to know that this is what we are facing.

Once you agree that the government turds have some sort of control over your private life and what you consume (outside of just making sure no one sells poison as food). Then they will continue to try to control more and more of your life.

That is because of both socialism and the war on drugs. It used to be that there was a broad consensus that people should just mind their own phukin business. But now, everyone thinks it is their duty to control other people for society, or for the children.

Where are we going to go for freedom once the US is under? New Zealand? FInland? I don't think they are big enough to take us all.

sluck604: But but... the free market.

is responsible for portion sizes slowly increasing kind of like the proverbial frog in the pot.

Seriously restaurant portions (at least in the US) are absurd. It's no surprise the bars are starting to do the same thing.

The free market says I can decrease the price to compete, or increase the "supply" and keep the price the same. Which one hurts my profits less? Which one leads to a nation of fat asses and drunks?

/hint they're the same option
//too bad everyone else's lack of self control means I can't get a decent meal going out with out wasting money and a half a plate of food.

you are a big part of the problem. Instead of complaining that everything in the world isn't just to your liking. Why don't you just eat what you want and take the rest home, and stop whining like a little biatch.

...speaking of "dinks",
"planet earth" with John Saxon..made for TV movie where a guy wakes up in the future. Women are dominant and men are fed drugged gruel and treated like slaves and called "dinks ...
anyone else remember this movie?
/end thread jack

snuff3r: Small changes like this are a small inconvenience to the average person but work toward fixing problems associated with alcohol abuse.

If you're too lazy to order a double, you've probably had enough anyways.

and some pubs serve doubles by default. If I want one, I'll ask for one.

The wine glass thing makes sense too. It won't stop people drinking too much on purpose, but it should help them stop going over the limit by accident.

farkeruk: sluck604: Seriously restaurant portions (at least in the US) are absurd. It's no surprise the bars are starting to do the same thing.

The free market says I can decrease the price to compete, or increase the "supply" and keep the price the same. Which one hurts my profits less? Which one leads to a nation of fat asses and drunks?

The free market also says that you can compete on quality.

Point... but that's only true when the market cares about quality. When it comes to eating out in the US... that hardly seems to be the case.

RubberFootMan: It won't stop people drinking too much on purpose, but it should help them stop going over the limit by accident.

I know what you mean. This one time I ordered a Bourbon on the rocks, and they served it to me in a pint glass. Later that night, as the smoking hot -- Prada wearing -- CSI interviewed me, I told her honestly, "I don't think I'm drunk. I only had one."

Impudent Domain: sluck604: But but... the free market.

is responsible for portion sizes slowly increasing kind of like the proverbial frog in the pot.

Seriously restaurant portions (at least in the US) are absurd. It's no surprise the bars are starting to do the same thing.

The free market says I can decrease the price to compete, or increase the "supply" and keep the price the same. Which one hurts my profits less? Which one leads to a nation of fat asses and drunks?

/hint they're the same option
//too bad everyone else's lack of self control means I can't get a decent meal going out with out wasting money and a half a plate of food.

you are a big part of the problem. Instead of complaining that everything in the world isn't just to your liking. Why don't you just eat what you want and take the rest home, and stop whining like a little biatch.

Oh I see how I'm part of the problem. Your eloquent response and delightful misspelling of common slang have shown me the error of my ways.

Oh wait no it didn't, you didn't address how I'm part of the "problem" at all.

/reheated leftovers... so damn tasty worth the premium of eating out.
//why don't you just hush up, until you've thought of something worthwhile to add to the thread.

I get the feeling that the doomed Labour government no longer cares about what legislation it puts in place - there is no way they'll win the next election, so they might as well leaves mess for the next lot.

GoRedSoxGo: Point noted, but it's the "force bars to offer smaller drinks" that gets me wondering.

Exactly why should bars be forced to offer smaller portion sizes? Should McDonald's be forced to offer smaller Big Macs? Should Marlboro be forced to offer smaller cigarettes? Should Coca-Cola be forced to offer smaller bottles of soda?

I'm not a mind reader but I'm guessing that this is their reasoning...

Problems caused by alcohol consumption are much bigger societal and health problems than those caused by Big Macs, sodas and cigarettes. It also has a major direct impact beyond the person who consumes it (as can be seen every Friday night).

Secondly, this is a relatively trivial and inexpensive change to implement. Shrinking Big Macs, cigarettes or sodas will require the companies to change their manufacturing and/or packaging processes or add and maintain a new one. The bars just need to pour less into each glass or, at the very worst, buy some smaller glasses to go with their big ones.

Impudent Domain: Where are we going to go for freedom once the US is under?

If you don't like it then why don't you do something about it rather than running away?

To all you anti-gun nuts out there, the most violent countries are developed countries with the strictest anti-gun policies. Take a look at Australia, Switzerland, France, Japan, South Korea, Denmark, Finland, Germany during WW2, etc. Then feel free to shut up.

Farking Nanny State. Next they'll be saying you can't buy a beer till you're 21, and you can't have sex till you're 18.

I'm joking of course. No civilised nation would stand for that.

Commie Nazi Terrorist: To all you anti-gun nuts out there, the most violent countries are developed countries with the strictest anti-gun policies. Take a look at Australia, Switzerland, France, Japan, South Korea, Denmark, Finland, Germany during WW2, etc. Then feel free to shut up.

Wut?

^ wrong thread, disregard post

sluck604: Oh wait no it didn't, you didn't address how I'm part of the "problem" at all.

you are part of the problem toad, because you seemed to be calling for some sort of government action to control the tiny meaningless aspect of everyday life that you did not like.

If you were not calling for some sort of government action they why the hell did you rail against the free market. What part of letting people make their own decisions do you not like?

1000Monkeys: If you don't like it then why don't you do something about it rather than running away?

well, lets see, what exactly can I do? I wonder, I try to recognize the most libertarian leaning politicians and vote for them, but there are not many out there. I talk to people all the time, and on the internet and try to push the values of personal freedom but mostly I am misunderstood and often ridiculed.

There comes a time when you realize that things are not changing for the better, and nothing seems to work.

This is rather odd, I would think bars would be more inclined to water down there drinks or offer less (ie 11oz beer instead of 12oz) to maximize their profit (well until everyone catches on).

Impudent Domain: sluck604: Oh wait no it didn't, you didn't address how I'm part of the "problem" at all.

you are part of the problem toad, because you seemed to be calling for some sort of government action to control the tiny meaningless aspect of everyday life that you did not like.

If you were not calling for some sort of government action they why the hell did you rail against the free market. What part of letting people make their own decisions do you not like?

You seem to be confused. Are you trying to say that government regulation is the problem of over-sized portions while eating out? or why I have trouble find a reasonably priced meal with reasonable portions?

I'll tell you what part of free markets I don't like. When the majority of people making up said free market are so willfully ignorant that it makes impossible to find a reasonable option.

/you can call me an elitist, I won't mind.
//free markets are good sometimes they are not the end all be all panacea to every ill that some people pretend they are.

lelio: This is rather odd, I would think bars would be more inclined to water down there drinks or offer less (ie 11oz beer instead of 12oz) to maximize their profit (well until everyone catches on).

Look at the different pint glasses in bars. They mostly are all the same size and shape, but some of them have an inch of glass on the bottom while others have a quarter inch. Same for many shot glasses. The thickness of the glass is pretty big towards the bottom while the rim of the shot glass is very thin. This way it looks like you have a big shot while are only getting a small one.

sluck604: why I have trouble find a reasonably priced meal with reasonable portions?

These guys have got you covered.

Quantumbunny: Australia gains title of the Fattest Nation on Earth with Mexico nipping at our heels barely behind us.

'Zat right?

I have this mental image of corn-fed Oz wominz like the girls from our Mid-West.

Ewwww.

/likes me the petite ones

Gecko Gingrich: sluck604: why I have trouble find a reasonably priced meal with reasonable portions?

These guys have got you covered.

The majority of meals are prepared at home. Still its not always an option.

all they want to do is make bars offer a smaller glass.

so you go to a bar, order a large beer instead of a small, its what i do when i go out to dinner. size choices are a good thing

They won't shrink these:

This "nanny state" cliche' is getting really tiresome. But I guess thats what cliche's do.

Unneeded apostrophes are getting tiresome as well.

Making the glasses smaller to stop people from drinking as much makes about as much sense as making ashtrays smaller to stop people from smoking as much.

Fark you

It's time for the industry to take more responsibility for the consequences of how they serve customers. Customers should not have to ask for a small glass

WTF?

rbuzby: Fark you

You sound like you could use a drink.

It's time for people to take more responsibility for the consequences of their own actions. Customers should ask for a small glass if they want one.

I'm shocked SHOCKED that no one has protested the use of "Nanny State" yet!

Unless... they realize that the term is fully justified.

Subbie

nicely done.

ultraholland: TFA: The largest wine glass holds 250ml - a third of a bottle of wine, meaning that a woman can drink more than the recommended daily limit in one go.

And just what the fark is wrong with that? The customer doesn't need a smaller glass to understand how many units they are consuming. You look at the drink and say "That's a big ass glass of wine. I'm about to get tanked." If the customer can't figure that out, no amount of downsizing will help. Let the people have their booze.

It'll sure as fark keep the dishwashers busy all night. I think it's a conspiracy by the glass manufacturing industry.

/not really, but who the fark actually thinks it'll solve anything? Apparently someone does.

ElLoco: Pubs and bars could be forced to offer smaller glass sizes under plans to tackle binge drinking being drawn up by ministers.

The church forming legislation? Unpossible!

I hope that was a joke. They call government officials "ministers" in England, they are not clergy.

Yes, because we all know how successful the South Carolina "tiny bottle" law was.

Maybe they should consider forcing fast food joints to shrink their drinks instead. They do a hell of a lot more harm to public health.

meh.

16oz., 20 oz., bunch of bloody amateurs.

/Enjoying a 24 oz. Gin & Tonic now
//Time to mix another

The irony is that it's the Nanny State to blame for rampant alcoholism in the first place.

Really. Labour government==alcoholism.

Why don't they just outlaw the damn alcohol then? Oh, right.