I mentioned the reason in a previous post. North America doesn't have digital broadcast frequencies yet. We still have analog broadcast which is standard definition.

The whole point of PlayTV is to play and record HD broadcast television. Europe already has it, US doesn't. Sony might release it sometime in 2009 for US but only maybe. Canada gets screwed on this one... the PS4 will be out by the time we get HD broadcast.

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So its only an over the Air device, that make little sense at all. if thats the case then i wont buy it when it does hit America, i only get channel 12 news here and thats at night. for every thing else i use cable.

on another note some states in America have already completed transition, and are awaiting the shut off.

There is some truth not being mentioned though in that your Tivo was not free. The service for lifetime was definitely not free (as I have one w/lifetime also). The DVR was not free. As for the lifespan of the HDD and it being shortened...why use your DVR or TiVo then? They use HDD's that don't need to be defraged so it is not an issue, the same goes for the PS3 & 360 as well.

I can totally understand if you already have these devices and you don't think it's needed (hell I have my Tivo & 2 Comcast DVR's along with a multitude of other tech) but to cut it short for things that have no affect on it's use (defrag?), is a bit far fetched..

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My Media center PC's don't cost anything FREE...just connect the cable to the PC and thats it....Tivo is also FREE...when I bought it 2-3 years ago I got lifetime service...and my DVR is just like a VCR...sits in cabinet..put a DVD-RW in and thats it...if you need it cool...I just think that most that have bought a PS3 have DVR-type device in the house....Everytime a HDD is used it shortens the life span....how would you defrag it...makes me shreek just thinking about it....just my 2 cents

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Wow, so your telling me that you got 2 media center PC's, Tivo and your DVR for FREE? You didn't pay ANYTHING?

Wow, you either have really good hook ups, or i'm smelling something that comes out of your rear end.

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Wow, so your telling me that you got 2 media center PC's, Tivo and your DVR for FREE? You didn't pay ANYTHING?

Wow, you either have really good hook ups, or i'm smelling something that comes out of your rear end.

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I paid for them ALL...I bought them for reason...My PS3 was bought to play games and watch BR.....NOT to record TV....I bought the other devices for that...except the PCs....they just have that as an added perk...This sounds like the HD-DVD add-on for the X360...glad I didn't buy that...I bet you did....

Wow, so your telling me that you got 2 media center PC's, Tivo and your DVR for FREE? You didn't pay ANYTHING?

Wow, you either have really good hook ups, or i'm smelling something that comes out of your rear end.

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you must be a moron....I paid for them ALL...I bought them for reason...My PS3 was bought to play games and watch BR.....NOT to record TV....I bought the other devices for that...except the PCs....they just have that as an added perk...This sounds like the HD-DVD add-on for the X360...glad I didn't buy that...I bet you did....

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How does this sound like the HD-DVD addon? That was a next generation optical media that failed to grab enough people's attention and just so happened to forefit. This is in a world of it's own. People who buy it would get it to make their PS3 a complete media device, if they don't have TiVo's or DVR's. PlayTV can't really "fail" since it wasn't intended for worldwide release.

Oh and by the way, I think the device captures more digital broadcast signals than available in a person's location. Watch one of the demonstration videos and you'll see what I'm talking about. Think of it as those old TV's that came with 30 free channels such as Discovery and Comedy Channel along with your local channels. Except they're region specific and in HD.

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Even if you have a ps3 you are saying that you have a bunch of crap, and you problem is a small box that no one will force you to buy, or what so ever? eeeeee......who told you that PTV will cost anything more except the purchase money?
You may also think that most people that have a ferrari hat, or t-shirt have a ferrari car, well guess what, no.
what logic is this?
if you have bought a PS3, why have you bought it in 1st place?? Dont even play games then, cause BD's life will shorten too.
wtf man? none of your posts makes sense.......

Whether anyone wants the additional services/device capabilities that PlayTV offers is exactly what it is optional so you can't fault anyone at all for not wanting something...lets remember that guys (and no need to call anyone names too). But this could very well be a great solution for those who want a multitude of options to be had in one device.

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Sorry to dissapoint you, mate... in Canada has already digital TV !... and most of all in HD.

I have no appreciation for what is offered that I do have to pay a monthly fee or for a monthly "service"; Simply I can record and wacht it later or at any time I want without having the worries of paying for a "service"... No thanks!

Still I won't bother with the PS3 PlayTV

My best suggestion is for you guys is to afford the best quality DVD/HDD recorder. You may record onto the HDD of the recorder any shows, movies and programs you may like the same way you have done it with the VCR, then if you wish burn it onto DVD's, the PS3 plays back in excellent high quality DVD+R double layers disks.

Another suggestion install a WIFI card for your computer, after installation reboot computer.

Microsoft Media Player sync your PS3,( open Windows Media Player, click onto the Library tab scroll down to Media Sharing, at this point PS3 has sync with your computer. On your PS3 you'll see an icon from Media Player, if do not automatically appears then click on the PS3 'Search For Media Server' icon. From now on all your music and videos can at this point be stream without paying extra money.!

No, you're thinking of cable. This isn't the same. We don't have ATSC standards yet. You know... TV's that use aerial antenna's to view channels? We still have NTSC standard definition quality but ATSC is coming in 2013. It's those 5-10 free broadcast channels that every TV is able to recieve.

If you look at the PlayTV box, you'll see a little RF, whatever it's called, port to connect either to your cable outlet in your wall or to an antenna.

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NO, I'm thinking Satellite..... 100% Digital High Definition

PS3 PlayTV, another gimmickie way to squeeze your hard earn money out of your pocket.

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No, I just do it for FREE.

On the serious side... if we all stop the GREED for a fact we would live in a better world.

On the serious side... if we all stop the GREED for a fact we would live in a better world.

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Greed is human nature,there for it well never disappear so long as humans remain.

i don't like salt, its to salty.

Sorry, I forgot to mention satellite. And it's actually about 30% HD, 70% SD, but growing in HD content.

Here's the great thing about life. You don't need to be persuaded by anything, so long as you have a choice, which MANY people at aD do. No one said to buy this, but people complain non-stop about "I have this" and "We don't need that". If people choose to buy this, they either know what it's worth or they put little emphasis in their choices.

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That is your choice to upgrade the hard drive or not, 80GB is alot. You can easily delete the content as well. The PS3's blu ray drive is Read Only, firmware cannot enable it to write, that's a hardware issue.

Alot of people are confused with this whole digital switch over:

1st off: Digital does NOT mean HD, it is just sending over a different signal, I bet $100 dollars that you will NOT be getting HD content through cable even when the switch over happens, but you will get a better picture.

2nd: North America does have digital broadcasts and has had digital broadcasts since 2005, it's called OTA, I use a UHF antenna and I catch 9 HD channels and 4 digital NON-HD channels sent out by FOX, CTV, Global, CW and much more. These companies have broadcast towers setup just for this. But remember that North America is not offically digital, when I mean offically digital, I mean that the cable from your wall from your cable provider, is still sending analog signals and NOT digital signals, not yet. Member 'rvinkebob' is right, ATSC is not standard here yet, NTSC still is.

3rd: Satellite is NOT 100% HD, Dish Network only had approx. 90 channels of HD along with Direct TV, but I believe that satellite is 100% digital signal.

Now with PlayTV, It has 2 tuners, one for viewing, and one for recording another show. You can have the choice for only using the one recording tuner, but you will have to stay on that channel while recording, besides, one RG6 cable won't break the bank. As well:

1st: As far as we KNOW, it can ONLY record OTA. No satellite support (That would just be to easy) and no cable support. Now the difference between OTA and Cable which doesn't allow recording, total beats me. I can understand satellite, because of the encryptions, but cable is beyond me.

Having this to only record OTA, is not totally useless, as time progresses, more companies will be using broadcast towers, especially when the ATSC standard rolls around. Like I said, when the switch over happens, you still won't be getting HD content through cable, but with OTA, you will, imagine your recording your favourite NBC shows in HD or recording the Superbowl in HD. Cable can't provide that.

@ muccione : You put a smile on my face :)

Uhmm.... 80 GB is alot?
For my PS3 500 GB HDD has 150GB left..!

Well that also depends on how much porno you have on your PS3! :P

How the hell do you take up 350 GB's?

I'd like to know as well. I have the 80GB (MotorStorm bundle) and I still have about 43GB left let alone Linux is taking up 10GB.

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Like I mention in pre-post, I have installed a 500 GB external HDD on my PS3 with high quality content of Music, Photos, and lots and lots of Videos...,Racing Events, Movies, Music Videos, etc,... etc. (sorry, ...NO PORN).

That's why still make no sence to me of having a PlayTV.