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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:The Ladder, October 1957.jpg

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[edit] Western culture

Just a question for those who contribute to this page: what is the main reason that only Western culture is specifically discussed in the lead section of the article? Should East Asia, Middle Eastern, African, or Latin American societies/legal systems be discussed, to some degree? --24.211.242.80 22:04, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

I also thought the "Western culture" reference was misleading; in fact that whole paragraph which was tacked on to the end of the lead section didn't accurately frame the article, so I removed it. Contrary to the implication of that paragraph, in many cultures (not just Western ones) homosexual acts have been condemned and legally penalised. The same is true of gender variance. The social movements that this article is about emerged in Europe in the 19th century, and have since appeared in many other (Western and non-Western) parts of the world. They have not all focussed on reforming sodomy laws. All this is in the article. If an assessment is to be made of their success, it should be made in the body of the article (and referenced) before being added to the lead section. ntennis 02:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] LGBTIQ

It's rare, but Wikipedia has failed to answer my question (in English, that is) - I've found elsewhere what "LGBTIQ" stands for, but would like to see more about the "evolution" of the acronym (? initials ?) and clarification of the "Q" as "questioning" or "queer." Samatva (talk) 13:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC) LGBTQI etc are addressed at LGBT. P for pansexual, I for Intersex, and the Q for queer and questioning are simply modifying that initialism. Others have also been proposed and that's in there as well. -- Banjeboi 02:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Same-sex marriage

I'd appreciate it if people who have contributed to this page look at the past two days' discussion for this article. An active editor is claiming that it is a scientifically established fact that children of heterosexual couples do better than children of same-sex couples. Aside from policy issues (NPOV and NOR) my understanding of the literature is that this is not the case, at least, this is not what most researchers have concluded. But i am not an expert on this research, and the discussion needs to involve people who are better-informed than I. Slrubenstein | Talk 19:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Most of the studies, that I'm aware, show that children do better with loving parents, period. I think studies do show that children do better with two parents but follow studies on gay parenting show that the children from gay families may actually be doing a bit better - this may be attributable to the cultural roadblocks against gay parents so that only those who really want to adopt go through the processes and grief to do so. There is also many LGBT people who had families before coming out so my understanding is that any studies would have to longer term and generally have shown that kids need loving parents and LGBT people are perfectly able to fulfill that role and have seemingly been doing so for a while. -- Banjeboi 02:22, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Antipsychiatry

I wonder if some of the related issues from History of anti-psychiatry (diverse paths) be included in the history here, or in gay liberation, or not at all? Antipsychiatry isn't currently mentioned in either article, and there does appear to be some revisionist distancing going on[1] EverSince (talk) 14:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Anita Bryant era and the beginning of the Counter-Liberation backlash

The Anita Bryant Era (1977-78) needs to be discussed because it was such a huge media screw up ending with the firing of hundreds (or at least scores) of people from the Dade County (aka Miami) School system. It represents the first of the organized Counter-Liberation backlashes. Michael-david Reisman 18:46, 11 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael-david Reisman (talk • contribs)