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[edit] Biography assessment rating comment
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The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 17:41, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] What about the University?
the weight of unpopular opinion about Dr. Falwell is more than enough to keep what has been fairly attributed to him on this article. but what about Liberty University? the article on it, itself, seems to be pretty fair and even historical. more focus should be given to Falwell's influence on the school. according to the man himself, it's the one thing he would like to be remembered by (as impossible as that probably is, now). that would be the key to objectivity here --he's spent a good deal of his life doing it, after all.
[edit] Quote
This 'turn the other cheek' business is all well and good but it's not what Jesus fought and died for. That is such an outrageous quote from a Christian leader that it must have a source. I've removed the entire quote until we do. DJ Clayworth 16:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Fatwa for Falwell's death
The following Friday, Mohsen Mojtahed Shabestari, the spokesman of Iran's Ayatollah Ali Khameini, issued a fatwa for Falwell's death, saying that Falwell was a "mercenary and must be killed," and, "The death of that man is a religious duty, but his case should not be tied to the Christian community." Can we get a source for this?
[edit] Falwell and Harry Potter
I saw on TV a while back when he was on a show called Talkback Live! on CNN, and they were discussing the Harry Potter books, and JF was saying they would teach children devil worship. I can't find a transcript link however, even on CNN's website. I don't think that show segment is still running on CNN anymore. Otani 23:05, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The PTL Club and Heritage USA
I have removed the last paragraph of the The PTL Club and Heritage USA section.
This paragraph just had all kinds of problems. For one, it's an unsourced allegation and we do not need that in high profile articles. For another, if Bakker's documentary is making this claim (and I have no idea one way or another), then it needs to be phrased more like "Bakker says in ...". I'm not familiar with this documentary, but I am going out on a limb and assuming from the name that it is a Michael Moore-like "documentary" in that it is not necessarilly from a NPOV. --BigDT 01:08, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
I think that it should be put in the controversy section, beings it was one of the many things he continued up until the end of his life. Ms.Mesner was on Larry King Live Tonight, and if you read the transcripts I think the paragraph would make a bit more sense. I hope. *Falwell Aparently took over Tammy Fae and her husbands old group (Im not sure on specifics) and they have always had a bit of animosity amongst them. Nimrauko 02:29, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Brown v. Board of Education quote
Interesting that paragraphs are allowed to remain in the article with no substantiation. See the second paragraph under item #6 Social and Political Views. No attributable link is attached but the comment is allowed to stand. So much for fairness.
I removed this from the section: He often spoke out in favor of the racist position in those days. For example, in 1958, he said:
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If Chief Justice Warren and his associates had known God’s word and had desired to do the Lord’s will, I am quite confident that the 1954 decision [Brown v. Board of Education] would never have been made…. The facilities should be separate. When God has drawn a line of distinction, we should not attempt to cross that line.â€-
- Well, it seems that he was right. --41.242.229.25 (talk) 14:05, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
The quote was not referenced. It was not from the salon.com article that is being used as ref. If you can give a source for where this quote is coming from I will be more than glad to put it back. Any objections?Nimrauko 13:56, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Call me Lilith
I don't see it in the article, but, didn't his newspaper as much as say, since Lilith was Adam's first wife (& a demon?), the Lilith Fair was a tool of Satan? Damion 17:29, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- That was generally considered by much of Protestant Christianity as apocryphal, meaning that they feel there is little truth behind this (and none concerning this tale). We got his newspaper for a time during the late 1990s, but I don't know if that was before or after 1999 (the time we received it)? WAVY 10 18:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
- Never saw it, myself, but it would have been '99-'00. Trekphiler 04:16, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] I don't think that the following line is ironic
[After saying that abortion is evil] Ironically, he condemned Fred Phelps' controversial Westboro Baptist Church, on the basis of believing that abortion clinic bombings were harmful to the furthering of the pro-life movement.
Is a better word "however"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.84.101.38 (talk) 22:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Presidential Politics: a minor but important change.
I removed the line about John McCain denouncing Falwell. This is inappropriate given the current election and the complexities of the implication. The quote and its position in the very begining of the article lead the reader to believe McCain is a general denouncer of Falwell, when the reality is more complicated. The quote itself is correct, but is from the 2000 primary, and since that time McCain's positions and relationships with Falwell, Robertson and other Christian leaders have changed considerably. Given the current election and all the sensativities and extra precautions to fairness and accuracy that go along with that, I think it's only right to remove this line and add information about McCain's denouncement in a section specifically addressing their relationship which can then bring a more inclusive view of the facts to bare on the issue. Anyone want to tackle the job? Thelastemperor (talk) 04:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
