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[edit] Wrong link

Link is wrong: "Fred Baker" in section "List of IETF chairs" leads to another Fred Baker. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.235.169.90 (talk • contribs) 19:07, 4 April 2005

So fix it, it's a Wiki! (It's still wrong, I'll fix it in a bit if nobody else gets there first.) Noel (talk) 19:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Chair lists wrong

IETF chairs and the years they served, as listed, is out of sync with the listing on the IETF's page. Hobart 17:58, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

The list that was there when you posted this matches the IETF's list. Maybe the (admittedly confusing) formatting on the IETF's list threw you off? Noel (talk) 19:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Start of the IETF

This internet-history mailing list message from Mike St Johns contains some useful info about the origin of the IETF:

"The IETF was established as the result of an IAB meeting held just immediately before the 1st IETF meeting .. Mike Corrigan .. came in late in the day on the first day of the meeting and informed us the IAB had decided to split GADS into the INENG and the INARC ..
I would really call that specific day the first IETF meeting. According to the IETF website, that was January 17th, 1986"

Note sure I quite agree with Mike (I'd consider the first formal IETF meeting to be the one at BRL, in April, 1986), but since the IETF site counts the January meeting as #1 I guess I've lost that one! :-) His account is correct though; I was at the January GADS meeting, and his description matches my memory of it. Noel (talk) 19:28, 16 September 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Rough Consensus

The word Consensus is thrown around quite a bit in this article, but no mention is made of the process they make consensus by. Humming. WHichever side hums louder at the meeting... I don't know enough about this to write it up into the article, though. GofG ||| Talk 17:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The process is highly variable; humming is just the one that is the most fun to watch :-) - the main point is that if you have to make exact counts to see which one is "strongest", you don't have consensus. --Alvestrand 19:03, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Security area

archive from December 2007 -Susanlesch (talk) 01:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

A link here was indeed archived within five or six days. Sorry for the confusion, entirely my fault. -Susanlesch (talk) 20:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] BoFs?

The second paragraph uses the term BoF, but fails to explain it. I will delete it unless someone offers an explanation of what it means. Bazza (talk) 14:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, both links went to working group. The link to BofF has been fixed. -Susanlesch (talk) 15:21, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that has explained what the acronym means to me. I have expanded it in the article to explain to others who may be as puzzled as I was. Bazza (talk) 17:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed merge

IETF Working Group is a stub and an almost verbatim copy of the corresponding section. I don't see the point, if a WG is or was relevant it can get its own article. But the mere concept of IETF Working Groups isn't notable enough for a separate article. I've read an older discussion on Talk:IETF Working Group, and remain unconvinced, fixing a few links is no obstacle, and the edit history would be preserved in the redirect. --212.82.251.42 (talk) 20:33, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

I took the other option and removed the redundant information from this article. I think someone copied it in from the WG article earlier. --Alvestrand (talk) 05:59, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

[edit] standards

Which standards were invented (with/without W3C dosn't mater) by the ietf? --mabdul 0=* 13:54, 29 November 2008 (UTC)


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