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[edit] Renaming

I think this article should be renamed "Free running". I'm guessing it was only named "freerunning" because a "Free running" page (which is currently a disambig page) already existed. Unless anyone has any objections, I'll rename the disambig page to "Free running (disambiguation)" and rename this article to "Free running". -- David Scarlett^(Talk) 01:32, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be merged with the freestyle_walking page - they seem to be the same thing. That said, 'free running' is a better name. -Unsigned

Well they are not the same, but an encyclopedic reason for that is difficult... How about one is done mostly at walking speed and another is aimed at faster movements ;) If you want a better explanation I can try harder. --Undaunted 04:41, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Free Running is actually short for Freestyle Running so that would be the proper name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.61.0.143 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 30 August 2006.

Got a cite for that? --David Scarlett^(Talk) 01:06, 31 August 2006 (UT

No when Sebatien first was recorded as saying what he was doing he called it "Free Running". Although it may have been short for it i have not seen any form of media calling "Freestyle Running". It should keep the name, "Free Running" --Reece

Actually, that's not correct either. During the filming of "Jump London" someone else suggested the term "Free Running" and Sebastien continued the use which popularized the phrase. there is no root of "Freestyle running" whatsoever. 71.255.229.248 12:57, 6 March 2007 (UTC) M2

Is the 'someone else' in question a Guillaume Pelletier who is described in the overview? I would like to know how sourced this is, and what this was originally called. What it says on Foucan's website is this: "2001 - Sébastien wanted to give extra dimension to his discipline, to separate himself. Looking for a universal word he named his discipline FREERUNNING." He does not mention a Guillame Pelletier. Admittedly, it doesn't say he coined the term, just that he was looking for it and he named his discipline that word he found. Also, see thread below for discussion regarding changing the name back. 'a.. word' means one word, no spaces. Tyciol (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Urban Freeflow

"Free running lead by Urban Freeflow" .... I'm going to remove this phrase form the article, as Urban Freeflow does not lead Free running. In fact, they have purposely dissaciated themselves with Sebastien Foucan who is the leader of the Free Running movement. Actually, after re-reading the article, there is so much wrong with it that it's not worth fixing that part, most of the article is inaccurate and should be completely re-written. 71.255.229.248 13:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC) M2

[edit] In popular culture, FR vs PK

Please see Talk:Parkour#In popular culture for discussion on which items should be in the FR article and which should be in the PK article. --David Scarlett^(Talk) 02:40, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Extreme sport?

Would this be classed as a extreme sport as they are taking the risk of jumping buildings and other objects? If this was classed as a Extreme Sport would it bring into conflict the ideaology between Parkour and Free Running (Atrades 17:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC))

Sorry, but free running and parkour should not classed as extreme sport maybe in future as sport only. Carlosguitar 15:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Movies

[edit] Jackie Chan movies

Jackie Chan Movies...should these be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.139.93.231 (talk) 02:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Casino Royale

I don't believe that the Casino Royale reference was accurate. The scene was actually parkour, because the guy was trying to escape Bond, not add style and tricks. Random Undated

Similar to the note above about Casino Royale not being an example of free running, I think it's a stretch to call Mirror's Edge an example of free running also. I just saw the Mirror's Edge Trailer on Youtube and it looks straight up parkour. Also if you read about Mirror's edge it says you're a courier in a surveillance society trying to avoid government/police so I'd think you'd have a very much parkour philosophy of movement (point A to point B as efficiently as possible), with no emphasis on aesthetics.163.181.251.9 (talk) 16:39, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Advertisement

Resolved. Statement has been removed. Carlosguitar 15:33, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

I believe that the section "What The Game is About" is clearly an advertisement. I'm recommending removing the section See WP:NOT#SOAPBOX. If no one has any objections about this I'll remove it myself. 65.1.120.38 14:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Making a better article

Hi, I'd just like to explain my contributions. I'm not sure about the validity of freerunning as aesthetics. The only references I could find was the quote from Jump London by Jerome Ben Aoues, and a foucon interview with trans world sport where he explains Parkour as moving stylishly. I think this wiki definition of freerunning has been misleading and is the original reason why I decided to contribute to the page.

Since this definition has been entrenched in the parkour and freerunning communities, I merged the original philosophy with the wiki definition as best I could. The philosophy of "following your way" allows for asthetics to be a focus of an individual, so this wasn't too much of a problem. I think to define freerunning, you need a very general defintion that contains both the thoughts of the founder and evolution of the sport(becoming parkour with tricking).

I'm new to wiki, apologies if I didn't follow any standards. I'd also like to cite more sources but it is hard trying to remember where i got my information. Raedonwolf 23:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

The current article is not really informational, and is more concerned with comparing Freerunning to Parkour, instead of explaining freerunning. I also cannot agree that freerunning is more associated with the inevitable commercialization of parkour/freerun, since both "schools" have enjoyed their share of media coverage and publicity. I will start gradually removing the freerun-bashing and general statements, and try to make a better article. Contributions welcome...I am referring to the overview section.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boris Shohat (talk • contribs).

Feel free to edit Boris.--Carlosguitar 14:58, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, let me start out by saying that I am a huge fan of both free running and parkour, but this article is not very informative and reads more like an advertisement than anything else. I am not extremely knowledgeable on either movements myself so until I can find the time to do a little research on the subject, I implore those who valiantly continue to edit this article to keep a slightly more encyclopedic voice in mind when contributing. Thanks :) -TheCrimsonANTHROPOLOGIST 03:11, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

So from the definitions I've seen, parkour could be considered free running, but free running is not necessarily parkour? Since free running is about doing it "your way", it seems that your way could be all about efficiency and thus would be exactly the same as parkour. So if these are to really be 2 distinct ideas, it seems like you have to define free running as having a more stylistic lean, otherwise it's just a broader category of things of with parkour is one. Make sense?163.181.251.9 (talk) 17:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Three kids unneccessary

At the bottom of history where its talking about those three kids I dont think it's neccessary but since it's a short article I don't think it matters much so just pointing it out.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.205.113.255 (talk)

[edit] FR is not PK!!

"He explains that everyone has their way of doing parkour and they shouldn't follow someone else's way of doing it, instead they should do it their way."

You should follow your way, in both parkour and free running, but don't use these two words interchangeably because they ARE NOT. Parkour is what you do when you are in an emergency: fluid, efficient, well done and fast movement, simple as that; Free Running is moving fluidly and looking good, sacrificing the efficience and speed parkour needs to be useful, simple as that. 201.230.147.97 00:21, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Freerunning

The first thread here goes over the move from freerunning to free running. The article should be named free running, with a space. The reason for this, is the website hosted by the founder, Foucan, uses a space. See here. If this article is referencing him as the founder, and the popularizer of the name, it should use that spelling. In the section above that I quote you can see freerunning is called 'a word'. 'Free running' would be 'words'. Single versus plural, it is very obvious. Tyciol (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2008 (UTC)