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[edit] Land deemed Nova Scotia

As a little footnote to Edinburgh Castle I added an article on the the piece of land deemed Nova Scotia If I find moer I will add --Pat 01:43, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestion to replace bottom photo

The bottom photo on this article, Image:Edincast.JPG, was added by User:Isis without attribution. Isis, who has left the project, seems to have scanned many things from books, and wikipedia's increasing willingness to stick by its rules in this regard makes me think we should remove this image and nominate it for deletion. Instead, I suggest we replace it with Image:Edinburgh-castle.jpg, which I think is better for the following reasons:

it's legal, and its GFDL it's much larger, so it works well with the new thumbnail code I think it's a better, more representative picture of the castle it's sufficiently similar to the other picture on the page, Image:Edinpain.JPG, and so the contrast between the two shows the development in the surrounding area (yes, they're from opposite angles, but even so).

Note that I don't propose to remove Image:Edinpain.JPG, as I believe it's out of copyright and so quite legal. I don't intend to do this immediately; I'll wait at least a week before acting, so if anyone disagrees, please speak up. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 01:06, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me... it's not a great or particularly representative photo anyway. --Taras 00:54, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Expand please

This article should be more like the Windsor Castle article. Chicheley 17:52, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. This article is in pretty shoddy shape in every sense. I'll try to do something with it (starting with the removal of inaccuracies) help from more experienced Wikipedians appreciated. Antisthenes 01:22, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Update the One O'Clock Gun section

The 25-pound howitzer was replaced several years ago by the 105mm Light Gun. [1] Also a mention (or even a seperate article) of the late Thomas McKay (better known as Tam the Gun) should be added in this section. I find it surprising that there's no mention of how they know it's 13:00 exactly. Personally I'd be inclined to include the real method plus a story from the 1950's: 'As for this reputation for reliability, one story about a journalist visiting Edinburgh in the 1950s shows just how ingrained it became. While at Edinburgh Castle, the reporter asked the man who fired the one o'clock gun how he knew the exact time. "Easy," replied the man. "I check my watch every morning by the clock in the Hamilton & Inches window." The reporter then went down to H&I and asked how they checked the clock in their window. The reply? "By the one o'clock gun."'[2] Ninja-lewis 17:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Correct?

Here it says that David's tower was built in 1386 by David II, but in wikipedia's article it says that david I died in 1371. So I think that something is wrong.

Yes, David II commissioned the tower but he did not live to see it completed, dying in the castle in 1371. -Bill Reid | Talk 18:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Suggestions for restructuring

The layout of this page seems a bit of a guddle. Here are some suggestions on imporving the structure, comments welcome:

"Present management" - this section should probably go after history, and be expanded to "Present use", taking in the Castle's military role as well as tourism. "History" - OK, but needs expanding, see no.3 "Current structure", an awkward title, "Description" usually works better, or perhaps "The castle today". Some of the subsections are actually history, and should be moved into that section, notably "David's Tower and the Lang Siege" and "A Garrison Fortress" "Tradition" - Could be merged into a new "Present use" section (see no.1), so that all the castle's current functions are discussed together. Mons Meg could be part of the description, as its not really a "tradition". The "Link with Nova Scotia" is historic and could be put into "History".

If there's no objections, I'll make a start next week. Once structure is OK, I want to start adding some references and hopefully get this High-importance article improved a couple of notches. Thanks, Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 11:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Restructuring sounds a good idea. I've added a mention of the castle's representation on various banknotes (it's a appeared a few times in the past) with refs. I think it's interesting and relevant and should get a passing mention somewhere. There wasn't a suitable heading for this paragraph so I put it in its own section, but maybe you'll work out a better place to put this information - either in its own section or maybe in a section dealing with notable paintings and representations? Cnbrb (talk) 10:34, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
No objections here. I'd love to help. My strengths are more on the Wikignome side of things... If you do the heavy lifting of moving the pieces around, I'll be happy to dart in and do come copyediting and such. roux ] [x] 10:57, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
Thanks both, any help appreciated of course. Cnbrb, there may be scope for developing such a section, Edinburgh Castle is symbolic of Scotland and the city, though there's a risk it might turn into trivia. But the banknotes are worth mentioning I agree. Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 11:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
No, I agree that trivia sections are unwanted, but think it's worth a mention. If it's worked well into the article structure, the development of an unwanted trivia section might be avoided... I hope! Cnbrb (talk) 14:05, 30 October 2008 (UTC)


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