Mean Street: Four Lessons From Ron Insana’s Folly
Pundits are dancing all over the grave of Ron Insana’s “Legends” hedge fund, which passed away two weeks ago. “Running a hedge fund is harder than it looks on TV,” ribbed a New York Times columnist this week.
Of course, it is easy to target Insana’s failed venture with cries of “I told you so.” A financial journalist for more than 20 years, what could Insana bring to Wall Street’s table so late in the hedge-fund boom?
Whatever it was, apparently it wasn’t enough. Still, Insana’s fate is an instructive one, full of lessons for us all.
Lesson No. 1: You gotta be in it to win it
Give Insana some credit. Who wants to go through life nagged by questions of what one “could have” or “should have” done? Taking calculated risk is essential to a prosperous and happy life. Insana took a risk and failed. So what.
He credentialed himself as more than just another Wall Street commentator. He learned a thing or two about how Wall Street actually works. He probably isn’t out of pocket all that much money. And he landed on his feet at SAC Capital.
That’s not bad for a losing day at the Wall Street casino.
Lesson No. 2: Timing isn’t everything, but it sure is important
When it comes to Wall Street, the trend is your friend. But only if you can figure out where you are in the cycle. Those investors who recently piled into commodity stocks are learning just how painful the trend’s tail end can be.
Just like Insana. He is a smart guy. He covered the internet frenzy. He saw the M.B.A.s streaming into hedge funds. He must have had an inkling that starting a hedge fund in 2006 was akin to joining a technology start-up company in 2000.
But nobody can say for sure when a trend is peaking. Not even Insana. Fifteen years at CNBC. A bit itchy to move on. Insana probably figured he might not get many more bites at the shiny Wall Street apple, even if the apple had already turned.
Unfortunately, Insana barely got a nibble. He aimed to raise $1 billion, but came up with only a 10th of that. His only regret may be that he didn’t start the fund in 2003.
Lesson No. 3: For investors, it all comes down to performance
Insana’s hedge fund was a “fund of funds.” These funds pool investor capital and redistribute it across multiple individual funds. Their fee structure is mind-bogglingly expensive.
In Insana’s case, an investor paid 1.5% of assets plus 20% of any profit for access to funds that typically charged another 2% and 20% on top. In all, an investor in Insana’s fund could easily be paying more than 5% of assets in fees on their money. By comparison an index fund charges one-twentieth of that.
Apparently, Insana posted a loss of 5% for the 14 months his fund was invested. Not bad compared with the double-digit decline in the S&P 500 over the same period, but not enough to generate enough fees for Insana and his staff or enough investor enthusiasm to put in more capital.
Which is why Insana’s fund died. It also is why the hedge-fund industry shake-out will continue. For investors, it all comes down to performance. And the law of averages means only half of the hedge funds can outperform.
Lesson No. 4: It ain’t easy to report on Wall Street and make your fortune on Wall Street
As a one-time investment banker turned columnist, I can tell you it is a tough balancing act for a journalist to cover Wall Street and its armies of financiers. How does a journalist juggle the need for sources with the need for unvarnished reporting? What should the relationship be between a journalist and his sources?
The case of Ron Insana and his hedge fund highlights how permeable the boundary can be between the worlds of journalism and Wall Street.
Insana reported on Wall Street and hedge funds for years. He then leveraged his Rolodex to start a fund of funds whose primary selling point was his access to those hedge funds. While raising and investing the capital, Insana continued to appear on CNBC—identified as a senior analyst. When his hedge fund didn’t pan out, he ended up at Stevie Cohen’s shop at SAC.
I don’t begrudge Insana his jump to the hedge-fund world. Like everyone else, he is just trying to make a buck–and finding out just how tough that can be.
Insana is a first rate reporter and anyone with any sense, has more than likely missed his top quality work.
Perhaps (if they’re smart) CNBC will trade two cue card reading dumb blondes for one intellectually stimulating Insana.
Given that his fund, net of fees, outperformed the market by a meaningful amount, this is more a business failure than an investment one. He got in the right funds; he just didn’t keep his overhead low enough to ride out a tough stretch in the markets. That’s a shame.
Kudos to him for giving it a go. It’s tough for anyone to stick their neck out and start a business. He did it despite having an unusually large gallery of would be critics.
SAC is a bucket shop that will hire any warm body…Insana better perform or Steve won’t let him shine his shoes!
Failure isn’t pretty, but is this really a story? Shows the market trumps celebrity, again.
The entire “fund-of-funds” idea is completely moronic. An investor would essentially be paying double the fees. What’s next, a “fund-of-funds-of-funds”? How about an “index-of-indexes”?
“Those who can’t make it in the real World teach or write books or become reporters.” Ron was a like a teacher, who knew enough theories to come across as smart. The trading part of the Wall Street must best be left to the pros. Ron could have bought 6% CD at his local bank and make 11% more than what he did for his customeres. (-5%, and +6%) How much brain does that take Ron?
Anyone who is remotely connected to investments thinks he can run a hedge fund. I know of many salesmen who have opened funds. One manager I know used to write commentry for a website. My landscaper quit his job to day-trade equities in the ’90s.
Everyone sees the 2 & 20. They follow the trend (long or short) for a while and think they’re geniuses.
When the tide goes out, you know who’s been swimmming naked.
To his critics, leave Insana alone. Who wouldn’t want a shot a running a hedge fund? Give the guy credit for jumping in and giving it a shot. “It is not the critic who counts…it is the man who is in the ring, marred with sweat and scars who time after time fails but gets back up..” Theodore Roosevelt
Here is that Roosevelt quote in full form:
It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat.”
The hubris of charging fees like that to gamble with MY money.
Good thing he failed or Maria and the other bombos, male and female, might all have gotten into the act.
Insana was insane to try to make money for himself in a Fund of Funds, after more than 3,000 other equally insane hedgers jumped in the pool, same as Mortgage Brokers dishing out “Mirror Fogging” tests for Bankers late in the curve!
Fund of funds don’t pay the 2/20 fees to the funds that they invest in — they negotiate better deals. Don’t believe that every hedge fund out there is taking full fees. If they are open for new money, price is negotiable. Doesn’t impact the analysis — but you’d think that someone who thinks they are “in the know/flow” would know that — great job Evan
I’ve been a self-directed investor for 13 years. About the only thing I’ve learned for sure is that almost no one can beat the market consistently over a ten year period. Insana, like most people, didn’t even last that long. The only surprising thing about this story is that anyone is surprised. Hedge funds are just another in a long line of hypes and frauds that make people think they can do better than the S&P (or the DOW, which has actually out-performed the S&P slightly). It’s amazing people still pay high fees to hedge funds, newsletters, or the various pundits promissing to make you rich overnight. You may get lucky - I did in 1999 when I made 226% - but don’t confuse genius with a bull market.
Great perspective ssbaker. Out performance is a fool’s errand. There is no statistical proof of the persistence of out performance because you can not control markets or the economy. Hedge funds originally tried to arbitrage, to their advantage, small price movements in analogous markets. Once the word was out the spreads disappeared and today they are simply speculation funds. Give Insana credit for getting in the arena and even more for getting out. His performance did “outperform” but fund of funds are yesterdays attempt to complete a fools errand.
i hope insana comes bak to tv. cnbc could lose several airhead bimbos and use him. he is smart and very informative. remember lou dobbs venture into space.com? grass always looks greener.
“Fund of funds don’t pay the 2/20 fees to the funds that they invest in — they negotiate better deals.”
You really think Insana’s paltry $100mil spread over a dozen+ funds commanded much better deals?
1.5 and 20 is expensive for a fund of funds, but I dont beleive it is prudent to label fees “mind-bogglingly expensive” unless a fund is underperforming or criminal in some way. Fact is, fees are nearly always negotiable and if the fof portfolio does not perform, whether because of fees or manager selection, they will have to pack up and move on.
Another CNBC “talking head” bites the dust. Insana was, and is a bore. He had zero screen presence and nobody paid any attention to him.
Because he thought himself a “star” he had the gall to charge egregious fees for his lackluster performance.
CNBC is entertainment in the guise of financial reporting.
Cramer the snake oil salesman, the “Fast Money” slimeballs all will remove your money from your pockets,promoting their own hidden agendas,
CNBC parades their clowns out like the Today show, ad nauseum .
Perhaps Al Roker or Matt Lite could host the show ? They, like the CNBC regulars are know-nothings, useless, and boring…Just like the Today show.
If you waych financial news, Bloomberg is miles above the pedestrian CNBC…
Does anyone remember Insana’s interview on 60 Minutes after the tech boom-bust? He was directly asked if he felt the he and or his co-horts might have had anything to do with the tulip craze, and he said “absolutely not.” He actually thought they were merely reporting. He should stay on the porch.
sbaker and jpope are exactly right. The best and most cost-effective way to invest in the market is via ETF index funds such as those for the S&P 500, total stock market index, etc. It still amazes me how so many, many people are duped into thinking otherwise. I’m self-directed as well, and the only money I’ll “gamble” with (i.e., not in index ETFs) is money I can afford to lose. Sometimes it works very well, such as in years where most everything rises such as from March 2003 tru early 2007, but other times it can blow up just as readily. No one can consistently beat the market. Hedge funds are just another vehicle to collect ridiculous fees while the investing public gets duped.
did you really just call yourself a journalist?
I have always liked Ron Insana because he learned from the master, Ed Hart when they were both on FNN. It is too bad that so few people remember Ed Hart who was the best financial whom I have ever read or heard.
The conflict of interest here is stunning. If the US economy continues to decline for a long period of time, fully expect bankers/businessmen to be made a scapegoat, rightfully or not.
this is ridiculous. insana did not ’start a hedge fund’. he used his rolodex to position himself between investors with cash and funds wanting it to take a cut for himself. who knows if he was actually doing his fiduciary duty and evaluating the funds he was getting his clients into as deeply as he should have been. his somewhat less than average performance over such a short time period doesn’t say much. clearly he was unable to give a convincing pitch to potential investors, either at the beginning ($100MM???) or after a year or two of weak performance. the lessons from this are more about marketing and contacts than investing.
Nothing wrong with going out and venturing on your own as Insana did. He failed on this venture yet that hardly makes the man a failure. To echo the comments of an earlier poster it doesn’t sound like Insana managed a hedge fund but rather was a seller of access to hedge funds, notable difference.
There’s no shortage of people peddling financial information. But true financial journalists are few and far between. Although not perfect, Mr. Insana was a genuine journalist. I miss his him.
I’ve read some more about this venture and it doesn’t sound too good…Insana bails out, but virtually all the investors have to wait up to two years to get their money out. Frankly, anyone who would invest in a hedge fund or any other investment that contained such lock-up restrictions must really look in the mirror and decide if that’s the best way to go. You have to have incredible “nerve” to leave your money exposed like that without a way to get out.
Kudos to Mr Insana for taking that leap of faith. There are so many of us who are too scraed to take that calclualted risky move and we watch life pass us by. Mr Insana saw his chances, thought he had a chance, dipped his toe in the waters and eventually realized that the hedge fund game was not for him. Full marks, ro, for giving it a shot. Wish you all the best!
Does anyone know Insana’s pedigree? Does he possess an Ivy League education like Mr. Newmark and I? Has he spent time working on “The Street” as we investment banking types refer to it?
If not, the salient issues are right there in front of us all.
Stevie hired Insana to exploit his relationships in the media. Stevie is obsessed with making himself bullet-proof so he can proceed without restriction. He’s got four of the most powerful PR firms covering his ass. Dodd, and who knows who else, is protecting his interests on the Hill and maybe with investigatory agencies as well. He has a stronghold over most media outlets who might have otherwise had a thing or two to say about the way someone like him does business in that bucket shop of his. Don’t even think about a whistleblower ever outing him, the infamous confidentiality agreement precludes that possibility. Insana is just another pawn in Stevie’s game-plan.
IMHO, Insana will get dumped in a year or two. Stevie has a long memory, he bides his time with a smile on his face. Insana was behind that none-too-flattering report on SAC that questioned his business practices and made him come off looking like a very strange and suspicious individual. Now he’s hired the very person that delivered all that grief. Believing that SAC hired this taking head failed hedge fund manager, for his business acumen, has a lot to learn. Insana has no idea what he’s in for.
While sounding compelling at first pass, I don’t think the analogy of Insana as the ‘man in the ring’ actually holds water.
Instead of truly stepping in the ring, Insana picked a couple of fighters to do all the heavy lifting while he merely stood in the shadows of the their corners.
If Insana really had cojones and wanted to demonstrate his insight and knowledge about the inner workings of the market then he should have managed money directly, fashioning investment strategies and making the buy & sell orders himself.
Of course, if i ran a fund of funds with access to top hedge funds i would invest money with SAC, RenTech, etc.. That is a no-brainer..
Mr. Yale alum: I have seen many an ivy leaguer blow out on “The Street.” The old adage of “My parents had cash and I did what i was told in school, so everything i need to know occurred to me already” doesn’t apply in the mkts.
sbaker and jpope are NOT exactly right. We’re talking institutional strategies here, not little fiedlity investors. Yes, low-cost funds that track an index are best over the long term for the little guy — that we agree with. But NEWSFLASH: we’re dealing with bigger fish here. Why would investment banks have prop trading depts if consistent alpha couldn’t be had? Why does Goldman consistenly churn out profits even when fees are down in the current market? Do you really think markets are entirely efficient?
In-State in the South: While I’m sure your state degree holds much value in your mind, I think the fact that Ivy League schools attract the most recruiters speaks volumes. We Ivy League “Streeters” are second to none.
Legends fund fees were 1.5% flat annually, no performance fee. This is less than many mutual funds. All media sources have gotten this incorrect. The lack of investigative reporting here is mind boggling. Makes you wonder what reporters in other sections of the paper are getting wrong…
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ and In-State in the South takes the bait. Yale and Solly tightens the drag and starts reeling in….
Paul.. Paul Allen was into that “Yale” Thing.
Dan Z thanks for the insight: Now just get in your GS550 and beat it to your house in the Carribean. Come back in 2012 when you can bribe the outgoing donkey admin to get you a pardon “a la Marc Rich”… oh wait you don’t have the kind of $
Who is the biggest bimbo on CNBC?
1.Becky 2.Michelle(manface)Cabrerra 3.Maria
I prefer Bloomberg news to CNBC as well except for that Chinese morning host on Bloomberg, Betty something? She cannot speak. Her words sound garbled and unbearable to the ears. I just switch over to Squawk Box whenever I see her on Bloomberg.
Insana would be great back on CNBC in some role, but I’m smitten by ERIN BURNETT too much to let go. Erin is the BOMB! Love you Erin! Keep up the great work.
Yea I like Erin too. She’s really beautiful and not full of herself like that fugly Carerra woman.
“Does he possess an Ivy League education like Mr. Newmark and I?”
Do they teach poor grammar at Yale or is that just you?
What’s the over/under on how long Insana lasts at SAC?
Joe Kernan failed as a stockbroker so went to CNBC. His lack of knowledge shows so I cannot figure out why he is still there.
The hair has been “grandfathered” on CNBC.
Hey Yale-Solly alumus if your so F-ing smart about and worked on “THE STREET” you would of made a fortune and bot Solly (Solomon Bros) yourself or with an investment istead. Now it’s part of Citi via Smith Barney. So much for you F-ing Ivy League Investment type’s that don’t know crap. Come to my world and trade where i would eat your lunch!!!!!! U PIKER
Ron Insana said on CNBC in the summer of 2008 when oil was approaching $150 a barrel, corn was approaching $8 a bushel and gold was near $1000 that the problem was not going to be inflation, but deflation. Since the fall 2007 Mr. Insana has been boldly saying that the fed should put the “pedal to the metal” and to try to stop the impending “deflationary spiral”. Regardless of how Mr. Insana did with his fund of funds one can not deny that was an incredible contarian call and one Mr. Insana has consistently made. Now the crash of 2008 has shown that Mr. Insana knew exactly what he was talking about. And thanks to his call I bot a short oil and gold fund. I found this story through a Google search to find out what Ron Insana is saying now. Whatever it is I for one will listen.
Yale-Solly: Give me the High School grad from Brooklyn who works his way up. Education is an impediment at the corner of Broad and Wall.






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