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12.06.2008
Obama: The University of Chicago Democrat

The following is a revised, updated, and edited version of a piece originally published in The Independent of London a few months ago. In view of recent events, and continuing debates, I post a revised version here. I should add, by way of disclaimer, that I have been an occasional, informal adviser to Senator Obama.

Not so long ago, the phone rang in my office. It was Barack Obama. For more than a decade, Obama was my colleague at the University of Chicago Law School.

He is also a friend. But since his election to the Senate, he does not exactly call every day. On this occasion, he had an important topic to discuss: the controversy over President George W. Bush's warrantless surveillance of international telephone calls between Americans and suspected terrorists. I had written a short essay suggesting that the surveillance might be lawful. Before taking a public position, Obama wanted to talk the problem through. In the space of about 20 minutes, he and I investigated the legal details. He asked me to explore all sorts of issues: the President's power as commander-in-chief, the Constitution's protection against unreasonable searches and seizures, the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, the Authorization for Use of Military Force and more.

Obama wanted to consider the best possible defense of what Bush had done. To every argument I made, he listened carefully and offered a specific counter-argument. After the issue had been exhausted, Obama said that he thought the program was illegal, but now had a better understanding of both sides. He thanked me for my time.

This was a pretty amazing conversation, not only because of Obama's mastery of the legal details, but also because many prominent Democratic leaders had already blasted the Bush initiative as blatantly illegal. He did not want to take a public position until he had listened to, and explored, what might be said on the other side. This is the Barack Obama I have known for nearly 15 years--a careful and even-handed analyst of law and policy, unusually attentive to multiple points of view. The University of Chicago Law School is by far the most conservative of the great American law schools. It helped to provide the academic foundations for many positions of the Reagan administration. But at the University of Chicago, Obama is liked and admired by Republicans and Democrats alike. Some of the local Reagan enthusiasts are Obama supporters. Why? It doesn't hurt that he's a great guy, with a personal touch and a lot of warmth. It certainly helps that he is exceptionally able. But niceness and ability are only a small part of the story. Obama also has a genuinely independent mind, he's a terrific listener and he goes wherever reason takes him.

Many people are emphasizing that Obama is a terrific speaker; they are wondering whether he has substance as well. But those of us who have long known Obama are impressed and not a little amazed by his rhetorical skills. Who could have expected that our colleague, a teacher of law, is also able to inspire large crowds?

The Obama we know is no rhetorician; he shines not because he can move people, but because of his problem-solving abilities, his creativity, his lack of partisanship, and his attention to detail.

In recent months, his speaking talents, and the cult-like atmosphere that occasionally surrounds him, have led people to ask about the substance behind the plea for "change" - whether the soaring phrases might disguise a kind of emptiness and vagueness. But nothing could be further from the truth. He is most comfortable in the domain of policy and detail.

I do not deny that skeptics are raising legitimate questions. After all, Obama has served in the Senate for a short period (less than four years) and he has little managerial experience. Is he really equipped to lead the most powerful nation in the world?

Obama speaks of "change," but it is reasonable to ask: Will he be able to produce large-scale changes in a short time? An independent issue is that all the enthusiasm might serve to insulate him from criticisms and challenges on the part of his own advisers--and, in view of his relative youth, criticisms and challenges are exactly what he requires.

Fortunately, the candidate's campaign proposals offer strong and encouraging clues about how he would govern; what makes them distinctive is that they borrow sensible ideas from all sides. Some people are describing Obama as a conventional liberal, or as "the most liberal person in the Congress," but these descriptions are preposterous. Obama is a pragmatist, first and foremost, and he defies the standard political categories. In this sense, he is not only focused on details but is also a uniter, both by inclination and on principle.

He is strongly committed to helping the disadvantaged, but his University of Chicago background shows. He appreciates the virtues and power of free markets. In some of his most important disagreements with Senator Clinton, he suggested caution about mandates and bans, and stressed  the value of freedom of choice.

Transparency and accountability matter greatly to him; they are a defining feature of his proposals. With respect to the mortgage crisis, credit cards, and the broader debate over credit markets, Obama rejects heavy-handed regulation and insists above all on disclosure, so that consumers will know exactly what they are getting.

Expect transparency to be a central theme in any Obama administration, as a check on government and the private sector alike. It is highly revealing that Obama worked with Republican Tom Coburn to produce legislation creating a publicly searchable database of all federal spending.

Obama's healthcare plan places a premium on cutting costs and on making care affordable, without requiring adults to purchase health insurance. (He would require mandatory coverage only for children.) Republican legislators are unlikely to support a mandatory approach, and his plan can be understood, in part, as a recognition of political realities.

But it is also a reflection of his keen interest in allowing people to choose as they see fit. He seeks universal coverage not through unenforceable mandates but through giving people good options.

It should not be surprising that in terms of helping low-income workers, Obama has long been enthusiastic about the Earned Income Tax Credit--an approach, pioneered by Republicans, that supplements wages but does not threaten to throw people out of work. In the environmental domain, Obama is a strong supporter of incentive-based programs, not of command-and-control. Here too, he draws on ideas that have been pressed most prominently by Republicans (and he gives them credit for their initiative in this domain).

But Obama is no a compromiser; he does not try to steer between the poles (or the polls). "Triangulation" has no appeal for him. Both internationally and domestically, he is willing to think big and to be bold. As everyone knows, he publicly opposed the war in Iraq at a time when opposition was exceedingly unpopular. (In his speech opposing the war, by the way, he went out of his way to emphasize, before a largely pacifist audience, that he does not oppose all wars: "After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.")

As everyone also knows, Obama favors high-level meetings with some of the world's worst dictators. He would rethink the embargo against Cuba.

He proposes a $150 billion research budget for climate change. He wants to hold an unprecedented national auction for the right to emit greenhouse gases. (This is an idea, by the way, that has large support among economists and that can be traced to an essay by Ronald Coase on communications policy.) He has offered an ambitious plan for promoting technological innovation, calling for a national broadband policy, embracing network neutrality, and proposing a reform of the patent system.

His campaign has spoken of moving toward "iPod Government"--an effort to rethink public services and national regulations in ways that will make things far simpler and more user-friendly. These are points about policies and substance. As president, Obama would set a new tone in US politics. He refuses to demonize his political opponents; deep in his heart, I believe, he doesn't even think of them as opponents. It would not be surprising to find Republicans and independents prominent in his administration. Obama wants to know what ideas are likely to work, not whether a Democrat or a Republican is responsible for them. Recall the most memorable passage from his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic Convention: "We coach Little League [baseball] in the blue [Democratic-voting] states, and, yes, we've got some gay friends in the red states. There are patriots who opposed the war in Iraq, and there are patriots who supported the war in Iraq."

In his book The Audacity of Hope, he asks for a politics that accepts "the possibility that the other side might sometimes have a point." Remarking that ordinary Americans "don't always understand the arguments between right and left, conservative and liberal," Obama wants politicians "to catch up with them,"

After he received an email from a pro-life doctor, Obama recalls how he softened his website's harsh rhetoric on abortion, writing: "[T]hat night, before I went to bed, I said a prayer of my own--that I might extend the same presumption of good faith to others that the doctor had extended to me."

In short, Obama's own approach is insistently charitable. He assumes decency and good faith on the part of those who disagree with him. And he wants to hear what they have to say. Both in substance and in tone, Obama questions the conventional political distinctions between "the left" and "the right" He has attracted significant support from Republicans and independents, and it is largely for this reason.

From knowing Obama for many years, I have no doubts about his ability to lead. He knows a great deal, and he is a quick learner. Even better, he knows what he does not know, and there is no question that he would assemble an accomplished, experienced team of advisers. His brilliant administration of his own campaign provides helpful evidence here.

But there may be some fragility to the public fervor that has occasionally envelops him. Crowds and cults can be fickle, and if some of his decisions disappoint, or turn out badly, his support will diminish. Some people think it might even collapse.

My own concern involves the importance of internal debate. The greatest American presidents (above all Lincoln and Roosevelt) benefited from robust dialogue and from advisers who avoided saying, "how wonderful you are," and were willing to say: "Mr President, your thinking about this is all wrong." Because Obama himself is exceptionally able, and because so many people are treating him as a near-messiah, his advisers might be too deferential, too unwilling to question. There is a real risk here. But I believe that his humility, and his intense desire to seek out dissenting views, will prove crucial safeguards.

In the 2000 campaign, Bush proclaimed himself a "uniter, not a divider," only to turn out to be the most divisive President in memory. Because of his own certainty, and his lack of curiosity about what others might think, Bush polarized the nation. Many of his most ambitious plans went nowhere as a result.

As president, Barack Obama would be a genuine uniter, drawing ideas from multiple points of view. If he proves able to achieve great things, it will be above all for that reason.

--Cass R. Sunstein


(Modified versions of this piece previously ran in The Independent and the Huffington Post

 

Posted: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:05 AM with 18 comment(s)

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basman said:

Doesn't sound good to me.--and I have had my doubts.

Sounds great to me!

June 12, 2008 12:37 PM

basman said:

One more thing: It is for me a no-brainer good thing that Obama is pragmatic. And I understand that he will borrow from right and left and centre to do what is right and what works within a particular framework of acceptable policy options and governing principles. My question is: cannot the idea of "triangulation" accommodate that flexible--third way?--principled sort of pragmatism, if iI can put it that way, or is "triangulation" forever doomed to mean soulless, polls driven, cynical compromise for political gain in the worst sense of "political"?

June 12, 2008 1:17 PM

jhildner said:

Everyone needs to read this.

June 12, 2008 1:20 PM

jhildner said:

Can we get this cross-posted on the higher-traffic blogs?  Very important insights from someone who knows....

June 12, 2008 2:15 PM

WaltB said:

I appreciate this article, as it validates my impressions from several other sources.  He's never impressed me as being the radical liberal that many of the radical conservative, out-there flavor want to describe him as. To be a true uniter will mean many will be disappointed by not getting all they want.  I expect several behind him today will change their tunes because of compromises Obama makes.  Myself, I'd rather his way than something like George's way.

June 12, 2008 2:19 PM

liberal reformer said:

Barack Obama appears to be a pragmatist but this might be more a matter of strategy and style than substance. He talks a good game of bipartisanship but the reality is sometimes different from the rhetoric. His voting record is quite liberal, obviously not far left but still liberal. He dutifully lined up behind Harry Reid on a campaign finance bill on which previously he had worked with John McCian. I say be prepared for some surprises people, if Obama is elected.

June 12, 2008 5:42 PM

teplukhin2you said:

An excellent piece and a strong case, eloquently made.

June 12, 2008 6:19 PM

boneill said:

Or, maybe, lib, Obama works on both sides but then leans left- intellectually.  He might see the left way as being better.  I don't think it is style.  

June 12, 2008 6:24 PM

AlanSP said:

This article got me thinking about what we mean when we talk about things like bipartisanship.  I think that a lot of the time people have different things in mind when they talk about bipartisanship, the result of which is that people often end up talking past each other when discussing the subject.  I think there are at least three distinct styles that could all be referred to as "bipartisan," which conveniently map onto three major political figures: Bill Clinton, McCain, and Obama.

The Clinton type of bipartisanship is triangulation or compromise.  The basic idea is to grant concessions to the other side, not because you think they are right, but as part of a quid pro quo.  It is somewhat cynical, but it can be fairly effective.  Clinton had a successful Presidency despite losing Congress, although the botched effort on health care and later the Lewinsky scandal meant that he lost his chance to get any major progressive legislation passed, the result being that his major accomplishments in office were NAFTA and welfare reform, both of which were important, but hardly at the top of progressives' wish list.

McCain's style is different in that he will work with members of the opposite party, but only when he agrees with them.  McCain is essentially an ideologue whose ideology does not fully map onto that of his party.  He is fully convinced that his own positions are correct, and he will work with whichever party he happens to agree with on a particular issue...while demonizing the other side.  That is, when McCain breaks from his party, he breaks hard.  So on issues like Iraq, he bashes the Democrats and on issues like campaign finance reform, he bashes the Republicans.  This is why a fair number of people in both parties, while they may respect McCain quite a bit, view him as something of a sanctimonious jerk.  Lieberman fits this mold as well.

Finally there's Obama's style, which I think differs from the other two in the willingness to genuinely listen to the points raised by the other side and the belief that they might be right.  Where Clinton says, "you're wrong, but I'll support you on this if you support me on something else" and McCain says, "you're wrong, so screw you," Obama says, "I disagree, but let me hear what you have to say."  Like McCain (or at least the 2000 version of McCain), he won't support something he believes is wrong; as Sunstein points out, Obama is "not a compromiser."  Yet he differs from McCain in that he places a premium on convincing others and remaining open to being convinced himself.  This doesn't mean that he will frequently break with his party; he is part of that party because he agrees with their general philosophy of how to govern.  Still, the willingness to genuinely listen is an underrated trait.  Notice that at the end of the phone call that Sunstein writes about, Obama didn't change his opinion about the legality of the program, but the fact that he deliberately sought out opposing view points (and from somebody like Sunstein who could make a persuasive case for the opposing view) is a good sign.  Reaching out to people doesn't have to mean agreeing with them or voting with them, but it does mean giving them a fair hearing and being willing to recognize good ideas regardless of where they come from.

That would be my taxonomy of bipartisanship anyway.  I'd be interested in hearing other people's thoughts on this.

June 13, 2008 12:30 AM

blackton said:

AlanSp, interesting post, thanks. While you might be true regarding McCain in the Senate, being President is an entirely different matter so it is impossible to say now how flexible or inflexible he would be, especially with a large Democratic majority in Congress. It is easier to be sanctimonious when you are one out of a hundred, not when you are one trying to convince 535 to go along with you.

June 13, 2008 12:15 PM

stgla said:

Every Presidential candidate should spend a few years at the U of C.  Unfortunately, the crass Republican ad-men want to turn Hyde Park, the neighborhood where U of C is located, into a new punching bag symbol of elitism and liberalism, if you can believe that (Hyde Park being a very economically and racially mixed community with as more conservative thinkers than left wing radicals).

online.wsj.com/.../SB121313942473362395.html

June 13, 2008 1:20 PM

jhildner said:

Alan, very interesting post.  There's a lot of confusion out there about the concepts of partisanship and bipartisanship.  Thanks for unpacking.

stgla:  Great column!

I was surprised to find out that Hyde Park has joined the Upper West Side and San Francisco as a place where "ordinary Americans" are in short supply.  Having lived in both Hyde Park and the Upper West Side, I'm tempted to agree.

You see, we like our lettuce fancy.  Boy, oh boy.  Nothing beats fancy lettuce.  The best thing about fancy lettuce is the little feeling of superiority you get when you eat it and, importantly, when you buy it.  You see, fancy lettuce is only available at your finer stores.  You won't find fancy lettuce at your Applebee's salad bar.  Now, you won't find any lettuce at your Applebee's salad bar, because Applebee's doesn't have a salad bar, but you get my point.  Only a finer class of people shop for fancy lettuce.  When I'm at the market about to pick up some fancy lettuce, and I see someone else going for the fancy lettuce, we give each other a knowing look.  As in, Hey, How's About That Fancy Lettuce!  Yep, she's in the club.  The fancy lettuce club.  We might exchange a wink or even, if one of us is a bit more forward, a terrorist fist jab.  (It's an elitist thing.)  

Nothing "ordinary" about fancy lettuce.  That's true.  Fancy lettuce isn't ordinary; it's *extraordinary*.  So much better than Applebee's lettuce.  It says something about you, too.  It says, "My lettuce is better than your lettuce."  Which in turn says, 'My soul is better than your soul."  It's a simple equation, but so many people don't get it.  They say, "Well, I don't like fancy lettuce.  Fancy lettuce is for snobs.  Anybody who eats fancy lettuce is a snob and doesn't care about me."  They often say this as they pick some Applebee's lettuce from their gross, yellow teeth.  What they don't understand is that we fancy lettuce eaters are snobs and don't care about them because we are *better* than they are.  That's just a fact.  I mean, who's eating the fancy lettuce here?  My advice to those who feel left out is, "Let them eat fancy lettuce!"

June 13, 2008 3:24 PM

CharlesFosterKane said:

Sublime music to my ears.Thank you -- and I hope this is borne out by the (hopefully) Obama administration. Just what I want to hear -- an idealist but not an ideologue, a pragmatist with big ideas.

June 13, 2008 6:46 PM

AlanSP said:

blackton,

That's a good point about the differences between being in an executive position and being in a legislative position.  It's worth noting that triangulation often seems to emerge out of necessity when there is a divided government, as there was for most of Clinton's administration.  Other examples of this include people like Ed Rendell, who's had to deal with a Republican state legislature, and interestingly, Richard Nixon, who enacted a number of liberal policies (Democrats at the time had solid control of both chambers of Congress).  Before he became President, I doubt many people would have pegged Nixon as a triangulator.

June 15, 2008 2:07 PM

s4200 said:

I continue trusting McCain only.

June 22, 2008 9:23 PM

ironyroad said:

To do what?

June 25, 2008 9:05 PM

GSpinks said:

probably to tell him who to believe, what to believe, where to go, when to be there, why he exists and to what extent he can serve his Conservative Masters throughout his life

July 2, 2008 11:27 AM

jhildner said:

s4200:  Do you writing fortune cookies?

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