Will there be non-hosted JIRA Studio available? How about a stripped down version where Crucible, FishEye, Subversion and the toolbar isn't included?

This seems to be way over priced comparing it what else is out there. True you get a lot more from this but $50 per user is exhorbinent. The price should be closer to $50 per month for all you can eat.

There should be a non hosted version as well.

in reply to Kim,

Hi Kim,

We do not currently have plans for a non-hosted version of JIRA Studio. As for the 'stripped down version' without FishEye, Crucible, or Subversion, it sounds like what you want are JIRA and Confluence standalone, which are available either thru the download & install version or thru Enterprise Hosting - http://www.atlassian.com/hosted/enterprise/

Thanks,

Michael

I see tremendous value for a smaller shop but for a larger organization where there may be many more readers who need visibility into a smaller group the price is a tougher sell in the enterprise. Are there any special prices for large deployments?

Will there be APIs for the service or some other feature for migration?

You should add Bamboo and out-source the builds to EC2.

I'd be interested in a non-hosted version too. As we work on Australia defence projects we cannot use a hosted system, but we do use your many of your products.

non-hosted for the win! I'd love to see the activity stream available at the least - considering we already license conf, jira and others in mind in the future.

Agreed that $50/user per month prices this out of the enterprise. Hopefully you'll have a non-hosted version with reasonable pricing and user licensing models similar to Confluence and JIRA (which we already use) or adjust your prices to include volume licensing options. I love the software as a service trend, but the per month, per user pricing just doesn't scale for large companies, at least in the up-front justification stage.

Looks like a very interesting tool, though.

Any plans on special licensing/prices/offerings for open-source projects?

Kinda expensive ;-)

Kevin Rohrbaugh:
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Any plans on special licensing/prices/offerings for open-source projects?
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I second that question.
Kind regards, Daniel.

I would like to order a Jira Studio, but the purchase page doesnt offer this option :-(

@Andre: We released a new purchase page at https://www.atlassian.com/software/Buy.jspa?action=new earlier this week, and it includes JIRA Studio.

As an enterprise, the price does not hit the sweet pass. Pass.

JIRA Studio looks like a great product but I think the pricing model let's say needs to be adjusted. I did corner of the napkin calculations and my conclusion is that for teams of 10 and less it makes sense. But at 25, it starts to be expensive and above 25 it becomes prohibitive compared to buying the software apart.

I see too major problems:

-The product licensing (I mean products included in JIRA STudio) is based on higher initial price and then 50% price discount for maintenance. JIRA Studio should also reflect this because for teams of more then 10, it becomes really expensive for 2&+ years. The pricing in blocks of 5 users makes mathers even worse. Pricing should also take into account that cost per user goes down as the number of users goes up (especially with JIRA).
-You did a huge assumption that all users would be using all tools. I work for a software developement company and I would say from 20 to 40% of users only use confluence (some maybe JIRA but JIRA has unlimited users and thefore that should not count).

I hope you do great with JIRA Studio but without a licensing model that takes into account these two things, my company will never consider JIRA Studio.

Too bad it is not free for open souce / non-commercial projects :(. It may give JIRA Studio a lot of extra popularity and with small adv. effort it may get many OSS projects migrate to it from SF, Codehaus, CodePlex ...
In our company we bought JIRA and Confluence and use it a lot because it is a great software and I don't see any reason to stitch to hosted solution for commercial projects.
Free hosting available for open-source projects will make your tools even better - please open it.

I use shared hosting for all my sites so installing the Jira stand alone is out of the question. Jira Studio looked like the right option for me but the problem with this is that I need to open Jira up to the public for bug submission and feature requests (an unlimited number of users using only the Jira bug reporting and feature request features). It's not cost effective to pay $50 for a user that only submits a bug or feature request once. Looking at the pricing outside of that issue in a small business $50+ a month is reasonable for a small team of 3 or 4 and I think it would be reasonable for the price to increase as more users are added. Again, our situation may be different than others because we are looking at this to use a hosted version of Jira.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. In regards to pricing, I expect we will be publishing higher volume (100+user) enterprise pricing within a few months, once we're comfortable with the scalability and robustness of the suite at those volumes. As you can probably imagine, the needs of an enterprise are far different than the needs of a 10-user development team, and so we wanted first to focus on the needs of the team.

Along the same lines, we also expect to have an answer on the open source front within a few months, so keep an eye out for it.

Thanks again,

Michael

I have been a customer of hosted Confluence for the past year and have been thrilled with it.

I have had my team waiting for JiraStudio for the past few months. I'd like to congratulate you guys on releasing it.

I purchased a 5 user license package to try it. I'd personally recommend the lowest package being the same price ($250/month) but allowing 10 or 15 users. Particularly for wiki access for testers and product managers, it makes this almost too prohibitive for us for 5 users for $250. We've considered sharing logins between development teams, but it's just too much of a hack and ruins the value.

I'd personally need to see some tweaks to the pricing before I committed my team to the product - and look forward to you guys reacting quickly.

I have been a customer of hosted Confluence for the past year and have been thrilled with it.

I have had my team waiting for JiraStudio for the past few months. I'd like to congratulate you guys on releasing it.

I purchased a 5 user license package to try it. I'd personally recommend the lowest package being the same price ($250/month) but allowing 10 or 15 users. Particularly for wiki access for testers and product managers, it makes this almost too prohibitive for us for 5 users for $250. We've considered sharing logins between development teams, but it's just too much of a hack and ruins the value.

I'd personally need to see some tweaks to the pricing before I committed my team to the product - and look forward to you guys reacting quickly.

Won't work for me. But I really want it.

The pricing isn't an issue to the degree it is for some, but the hosted only solution won't work.

For various reasons, my company cannot [I stress cannot, not will not] use a hosted solution. We need to have it inside our firewall, running on our hardware.

I know this is less than optimal in this error of software as service, but it is what we require.

I am willing to put down the money to purchase all of the component pieces (JIRA, Confluence, Fish Eye, Crucible, even Tool Bar and Streams).

Just let me do it!

Was really hoping for the non-host version of this. Looks like someone dropped the ball on this one. :-/

Todd - just an FYI, we've said all along that JIRA Studio will be hosted only, and the connecting pieces will be slowly released for non-hosted customers over time.

The stream plugin will be first, then the other bits and pieces one at a time.

There's some complexity in doing this (non-hosted) so that will take longer. No one has 'dropped the ball', we're just being open!

m

I've been using JiraStudio for the past two weeks. I have a couple of comments:
1) the activity stream is awesome.
2) there are weird things with the U/I that cause you to take longer to figure out how to do something. I have been using Confluence for the past two years, and that thing is so intuitive and polished that it is fantastic. My hope is that there continue to be refinements on JiraStudio to get it as slick.
3) Everything "works". What I mean by this is that the U/I is a little convoluted, but everything works as expected. The functionality is solid.
4) I can't really be too specific, because I'm not 100% sure why, but Confluence feels too stripped down to me. It's more of a layout thing than anything. I'm not 100% sure why, but it's not as appealing as the full version of confluence.
5) I have to dig a little deeper, but it would be cool if the activity stream was emailed out by default at the end of the day. I notice there are notification options but haven't played with them.
6) It would be cool to have a Confluence plugin on the home portal page. We keep a "Push Log" of any fixes pushed to production and there's really no good place for it right now. This would also be good for overall team documentation whereas it's not as applicable inside a specific project.
6) My biggest desire for feature, besides a different licensing scheme (ie: more users), would be some kind of built in unit testing.

I'm excited to see what's coming next!

Thanks,
Chris

One other thing...

7) On the main portal page, the "Filter Issues" Options for each account is cumbersome and not helpful. It over crowds the screen and I'd recommend removing it. In the Follow up project screen, those functions are well displayed and useful.