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- Natural primary keys
- I have had designers/developers that I worked with or managed argue for natural primary keys.
The primary (:)) justifications cited were that they are "recognizable", as opposed to "just a number" (unless the PK is a type such as datetime, wherethe concept of "natural vs. surrogate" becomes a little gray, anyway) and that a surrogate key represents "a waste of space" in the database in those cases where a natural PK will suffice, i.e. - why add an additional column when the columns holding"real data" will suffice?
Excellent article. - Posted: 03/26/2002 @ 07:58 PM (PST)
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Great debate?Lyndal | 03/22/2002 @ 03:01 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Greate Read, Nothing Beginner about ittandel | 03/23/2002 @ 01:09 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Greate Read, Nothing Beginner about ittandel | 03/23/2002 @ 01:14 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
sequential?bob@... | 03/25/2002 @ 12:09 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Natural primary keysjwallison | 03/26/2002 @ 07:58 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
I've had this argument many a time with seasone...travis@... | 03/27/2002 @ 12:23 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Access/Jet Can Make "Mistakes"mattohare@... | 04/03/2002 @ 02:12 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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use of surrogate keyerik.bronckaers@... | 10/10/2002 @ 08:32 PM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
You've been luckynyc_guru_sorta | 04/12/2002 @ 12:06 PM (PDT)
Surrogate PKs and Composite PKsbuilder@... | 03/26/2002 @ 12:47 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
This is where you'd relate the tablestravis@... | 03/27/2002 @ 12:20 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Line item table keysrick@... | 03/28/2002 @ 12:04 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Child Table PKsmattohare@... | 04/03/2002 @ 02:39 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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ProdID based on current business ruleswmillett@... | 04/08/2002 @ 01:44 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Bad Idea for Line ItemsM. Shawn Dillon | 07/03/2002 @ 12:20 PM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Opinion on builder's PK questionKeeBored | 10/09/2002 @ 11:12 PM (PDT)
Duplicate recordsrick@... | 03/27/2002 @ 06:17 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Duplicate Recordsbcbeatty | 03/28/2002 @ 11:32 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Unique Clauseaaron_myers | 10/09/2002 @ 11:00 PM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Two of the major factors in deciding on a natur...JimGawn | 04/02/2004 @ 01:28 PM (PST)
one problemThomasAnderson | 03/27/2002 @ 08:26 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Reading for comprehension...AdminSparky | 03/28/2002 @ 10:37 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Solutionharkins@... | 04/02/2002 @ 11:45 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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More Solutionmattohare@... | 04/03/2002 @ 02:49 AM (PST)
Surrogates are unnaturalhjweigel@... | 03/29/2002 @ 09:44 AM (PST)
My concernlnarendra@... | 04/01/2002 @ 03:56 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
It's not a surrogate primary key if the the use...adolf s | 04/02/2002 @ 11:14 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Primary key is not seenrsalcedo | 04/02/2002 @ 11:38 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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A word of caution re advocating that a surrogat...JimGawn | 04/02/2004 @ 01:59 PM (PST)
Social Security Numbers Not Uniquejeffdi@... | 04/03/2002 @ 11:36 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
SSN Faux Follymattohare@... | 04/05/2002 @ 07:35 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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1st Law of Security: Coincidences ain'tian_ison@... | 05/11/2003 @ 03:34 PM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
There's even moreK.I.S.S. | 06/26/2002 @ 07:15 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Privacy and Data Protection Violationk_edwards | 07/23/2002 @ 08:49 PM (PDT)
The conclusion is just plain wrong!AgeTheGod | 04/04/2002 @ 06:24 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
I have to agree + (part 2)jharden@... | 04/30/2002 @ 03:18 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
I have to agree + (part 1)jharden@... | 04/30/2002 @ 03:20 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
I have to agree + (part 3)jharden@... | 04/30/2002 @ 03:21 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Body of evidence...Tore | 10/10/2002 @ 01:17 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
So give some examples...Tore | 10/10/2002 @ 01:13 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Re: The conclusion is just plain wrong!JimGawn | 04/02/2004 @ 02:09 PM (PST)
Non Primary TablesLee Quinn | 04/04/2002 @ 11:51 PM (PST)
Flat Wronghwwang_2000@... | 04/05/2002 @ 03:35 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Read it againmwp.reid@... | 04/21/2002 @ 12:16 AM (PDT)
No surrogate keyTheGreatWall | 04/10/2002 @ 11:22 AM (PDT)
Builder.com irresponsiblerjplummer | 04/16/2002 @ 02:59 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Rubbishmwp.reid@... | 04/21/2002 @ 12:14 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Rubbish..NOTbyrmol@... | 04/21/2002 @ 05:55 PM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Thats' one for the booksBunce | 06/16/2002 @ 07:38 PM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Study this ...jharden@... | 04/30/2002 @ 03:43 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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Not set in stonepablopp@... | 12/18/2007 @ 10:39 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
And the soap box is outdated at thatK.I.S.S. | 06/26/2002 @ 08:06 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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User Interface and PKntcse@... | 04/28/2004 @ 08:02 PM (PDT)
Real world example: Natural key badJasonVeniot | 06/25/2002 @ 10:43 PM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
My rules for keysJoe Celko | 07/10/2002 @ 03:43 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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An Exceptiondburr@... | 03/21/2008 @ 11:01 AM (PDT)
First, there is already a similar article at omen | 06/27/2002 @ 07:09 AM (PDT)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
More things to consider...jgodse1@... | 07/28/2002 @ 01:30 AM (PDT)
Too dogmaticGilles1 | 07/23/2002 @ 06:47 AM (PDT)
Article is bang on.peter.kurth@... | 10/10/2002 @ 01:48 AM (PDT)
I've learned a great tipsugly@... | 11/06/2002 @ 08:54 PM (PST)
Who cares and why?cradford@... | 01/05/2003 @ 10:05 PM (PST)
Nothing But A Furphyjourneyman2001@... | 01/14/2003 @ 11:25 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Ack!!!journeyman2001@... | 01/14/2003 @ 11:57 AM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
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While I'm here though...journeyman2001@... | 01/14/2003 @ 12:04 PM (PST)
Usefule advice marred by serious misconceptionsJimGawn | 04/02/2004 @ 06:35 PM (PST)![[image]](http://mowser.com/img?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftechrepublic.com.com%2Fi%2Ftr%2FtreeSkipItem.gif)
Database Design and Surrogate Keysfrances.brickhill@... | 07/13/2004 @ 01:13 PM (PDT)
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